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| johnnyDfox 2006-02-26, 6:14 pm |
| Dear friends,
I realize my question here is a bit outside the scope of DW but because the
image that I will refer to is ultimately to be used in DW here it goes: Even
before I optimize an image, how can I reduce its unecessarily large dimensions
without loosing dramatically the quality? The original Is nearly 10 x bigger
than the size necessary for the web page but everytime I try to shrink it in
Photoshop, menu image size, the outcome is awful. Can somebody please shed a
light on this for me?
Thanks a million
Johnny
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| Murray *TMM* 2006-02-26, 6:14 pm |
| Use PS's filters to sharpen the image. Reduce it to half its height/width.
Sharpen, and reduce by half again. Rinse, lather, and repeat.
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"johnnyDfox" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Dear friends,
>
> I realize my question here is a bit outside the scope of DW but because
> the
> image that I will refer to is ultimately to be used in DW here it goes:
> Even
> before I optimize an image, how can I reduce its unecessarily large
> dimensions
> without loosing dramatically the quality? The original Is nearly 10 x
> bigger
> than the size necessary for the web page but everytime I try to shrink it
> in
> Photoshop, menu image size, the outcome is awful. Can somebody please shed
> a
> light on this for me?
>
> Thanks a million
> Johnny
>
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| E. T. Culling 2006-02-26, 6:14 pm |
| Use unsharp mask and resample.
Eleanor
"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Use PS's filters to sharpen the image. Reduce it to half its
> height/width. Sharpen, and reduce by half again. Rinse, lather, and
> repeat.
>
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| Josie1one 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| The first thing I do in Photoshop is reduce the image resolution to 72
pixels/inch (Image/Image size). There's no point in it being any greater
because that's all anybody will see on the internet.
Before anything else I put in the size I want to use (say 500px wide) and
OK. Then I use File/Save for web. You can play with the settings. The image
shouldn't be above 35kb (I may well be taken up on that one). You can use
4-up to see some different results. If you're using PSP the actions are very
similar but I haven't used it in a while and can't remember exactly.
Please note I said this is what *I* do, there may be other and better ways.
One thing worth remembering - Have your originals in, say, My Pictures, and
save the reduced ones to your DW images folder!
Jo
"johnnyDfox" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Dear friends,
>
> I realize my question here is a bit outside the scope of DW but because
> the
> image that I will refer to is ultimately to be used in DW here it goes:
> Even
> before I optimize an image, how can I reduce its unecessarily large
> dimensions
> without loosing dramatically the quality? The original Is nearly 10 x
> bigger
> than the size necessary for the web page but everytime I try to shrink it
> in
> Photoshop, menu image size, the outcome is awful. Can somebody please shed
> a
> light on this for me?
>
> Thanks a million
> Johnny
>
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| kararenee 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| What type of file are you trying to reduce?
If you are starting with a .gif, they downsize horribly unless you switch your
Image...Mode to RGB.
The advice about switching to 72 dpi first is essential also.
Hope this helps.
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| E Michael Brandt 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| Interesting. Is it *really* better to sharpen first? I've always felt
i got better results when I reduce img size (with Resampling) leaving
all the information in the image, and only then sharpen. Have
I been deluding myself?
emichael brandt
Murray *TMM* wrote:
> Use PS's filters to sharpen the image. Reduce it to half its height/width.
> Sharpen, and reduce by half again. Rinse, lather, and repeat.
>
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| Murray *TMM* 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| Works better that way for me, Michael - those images on the fairfaxboulevard
site were all downsized from about 2048px and they look OK.
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"E Michael Brandt" <michael@valleywebdesigns.com> wrote in message
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> Interesting. Is it *really* better to sharpen first? I've always felt i
> got better results when I reduce img size (with Resampling) leaving all
> the information in the image, and only then sharpen. Have
> I been deluding myself?
>
> emichael brandt
>
> Murray *TMM* wrote:
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| Murray *TMM* 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| Huh? GIF images downsize horribly?
DPI makes no difference on the web....
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"kararenee" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> What type of file are you trying to reduce?
> If you are starting with a .gif, they downsize horribly unless you switch
> your
> Image...Mode to RGB.
> The advice about switching to 72 dpi first is essential also.
> Hope this helps.
>
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| Josie1one 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| My old teacher was adamant about the 72ppi and not being able to see in
higher res. I admit I've been wondering lately, and tried your 50% way
earlier (didn't have enormous success), can't decide about resampling. I'll
have a better try before I put any more images on a site.
Jo
"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Huh? GIF images downsize horribly?
>
> DPI makes no difference on the web....
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| Murray *TMM* 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| DPI make no difference on the web. Really.
Look at the images here (especially the thumbs) -
http://www.fairfaxboulevard.com/f_node-photos.shtml
Do they look acceptible?
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"Josie1one" <joleros[nospam]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My old teacher was adamant about the 72ppi and not being able to see in
> higher res. I admit I've been wondering lately, and tried your 50% way
> earlier (didn't have enormous success), can't decide about resampling.
> I'll have a better try before I put any more images on a site.
> Jo
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| Joe Makowiec 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| On 26 Feb 2006 in macromedia.dreamweaver, Josie1one wrote:
> My old teacher was adamant about the 72ppi and not being able to see
> in higher res. I admit I've been wondering lately, and tried your
> 50% way earlier (didn't have enormous success), can't decide about
> resampling. I'll have a better try before I put any more images on a
> site.
The only thing which matters on the web is absolute pixel dimension.
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| Josie1one 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| Perfectly acceptible... I've been playing around and have come to the
conclusion I need to rethink image size-reduction.
I just hope I live long enough to learn what I need to know <sigh>
Jo
"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> DPI make no difference on the web. Really.
>
> Look at the images here (especially the thumbs) -
>
> http://www.fairfaxboulevard.com/f_node-photos.shtml
>
> Do they look acceptible?
>
>
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| Murray *TMM* 2006-02-26, 6:15 pm |
| > I just hope I live long enough to learn what I need to know <sigh>
I abandoned all hope of that when I turned 50, decades ago! 8)
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"Josie1one" <joleros[nospam]@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Perfectly acceptible... I've been playing around and have come to the
> conclusion I need to rethink image size-reduction.
> I just hope I live long enough to learn what I need to know <sigh>
> Jo
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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