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geovino

2006-02-07, 10:50 pm

I have a site www.andrewrichwines.com . The home pages has too many tables and
I want to center the address and phone number at the bottom of the page without
tearing the whole page a part. What is the best way to do this?

Thanks

Murray *TMM*

2006-02-07, 10:50 pm

And read this, please -

http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php

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"Alan" <dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> <!--DWLayoutTable-->
>
> <td height="65" colspan="9"
> <td colspan="2" rowspan="4"
>
> redo it. there's no quick fix. it would take a person well versed in
> working
> with complex tables hours to make a tiny change- the structure is too
> complex and fragile.
>
> suggest using regular table view, Not layout view.
>



Alan

2006-02-07, 10:50 pm



> www.andrewrichwines.com


<!--DWLayoutTable-->

<td height="65" colspan="9"
<td colspan="2" rowspan="4"

redo it. there's no quick fix. it would take a person well versed in working
with complex tables hours to make a tiny change- the structure is too
complex and fragile.

suggest using regular table view, Not layout view.

Drew

2006-02-07, 10:50 pm

I still use tables for layout and I use spans, although I understand what
the guy is talking about. If this fixes the OP's problem, then why not do
it? At least until the next redesign?

Drew

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> And read this, please -
>
> http://apptools.com/rants/spans.php
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
> ==================
>
>
> "Alan" <dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com> wrote in message
> news:C00656FA.277215%dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com...
>
>



Murray *TMM*

2006-02-07, 10:50 pm

In the case of your specific suggestion changing the span of the last row
would make very little difference to the overall fragility of a table that
is already littered with spans. The link I posted was more of a general
discussion on how devastating just a few spans can be to the health of your
tables.

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"Drew" <drew.laing@NOswvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.SPMgov> wrote in message
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>I still use tables for layout and I use spans, although I understand what
>the guy is talking about. If this fixes the OP's problem, then why not do
>it? At least until the next redesign?
>
> Drew
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:drqqid$5ee$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>
>



Drew

2006-02-07, 10:50 pm

I really need to get into the CSS positioning... my workload just won't
slack up enough to get it done!

Drew

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> In the case of your specific suggestion changing the span of the last row
> would make very little difference to the overall fragility of a table that
> is already littered with spans. The link I posted was more of a general
> discussion on how devastating just a few spans can be to the health of
> your tables.
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
> ==================
>
>
> "Drew" <drew.laing@NOswvtc.dmhmrsas.virginia.SPMgov> wrote in message
> news:drqrmm$70a$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>
>



geovino

2006-02-07, 10:53 pm

I will take your advice. Thanks.
geovino

2006-02-07, 10:53 pm

Good advice. I created this andrewrichwines.com page from a friend who made it
in Quark. That was a mistake to begin with.
Then using the layers makes it seem easy, but it does cause problems. Why are
layers still part of Dreamweaver if they are so problematic?

Since its a simple layout. What do you think is the best way to reset it up?
Should I start with one main table, then use a style sheet to position the
images and text? I'm just starting to understand CSS and its takes a long time
to get the hang of it, but it looks like the best way. How would you redo it?
Thanks.

Murray *TMM*

2006-02-07, 10:53 pm

> Why are
> layers still part of Dreamweaver if they are so problematic?


It's only when you misuse them that they are problematic. Absolute
positioning is part of CSS, not DW, and when you misuse layers you are just
misusing absolute positioning.

> Since its a simple layout. What do you think is the best way to reset it
> up?
> Should I start with one main table, then use a style sheet to position the
> images and text? I'm just starting to understand CSS and its takes a long
> time
> to get the hang of it, but it looks like the best way. How would you redo
> it?


Just use tables until you get the hang of CSS. Start at the table tutorials
on the DW FAQ link in my sig.

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Murray --- ICQ 71997575
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"geovino" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:drt4n1$9tl$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Good advice. I created this andrewrichwines.com page from a friend who
> made it
> in Quark. That was a mistake to begin with.
> Then using the layers makes it seem easy, but it does cause problems. Why
> are
> layers still part of Dreamweaver if they are so problematic?
>
> Since its a simple layout. What do you think is the best way to reset it
> up?
> Should I start with one main table, then use a style sheet to position the
> images and text? I'm just starting to understand CSS and its takes a long
> time
> to get the hang of it, but it looks like the best way. How would you redo
> it?
> Thanks.
>



Drew

2006-02-07, 10:55 pm

I still use tables for layouts... haven't moved into the new era yet!

I bet there are still some proponents of table design, but then again I
don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of the web layout movement!

Drew

"geovino" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:drt4n1$9tl$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Good advice. I created this andrewrichwines.com page from a friend who
> made it
> in Quark. That was a mistake to begin with.
> Then using the layers makes it seem easy, but it does cause problems. Why
> are
> layers still part of Dreamweaver if they are so problematic?
>
> Since its a simple layout. What do you think is the best way to reset it
> up?
> Should I start with one main table, then use a style sheet to position the
> images and text? I'm just starting to understand CSS and its takes a long
> time
> to get the hang of it, but it looks like the best way. How would you redo
> it?
> Thanks.
>



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