Dreamweaver - Nesting Tables

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Nesting Tables

Oli_Wales

2006-02-07, 10:38 pm

Ok, got a table, with a nested table within that but the whole table keeps
exanding when i inuput text or images...WHY?????? How do i keep Table widths
consistent and not expanding. It seems impossible!!! :(

Osgood

2006-02-07, 10:38 pm

Oli_Wales wrote:

> Ok, got a table, with a nested table within that but the whole table keeps
> exanding when i inuput text or images...WHY?????? How do i keep Table widths
> consistent and not expanding. It seems impossible!!! :(
>

Start by not using layout mode, already it is getting you frustrated. I
won't look at your page because the chances are its so badly beaten up
by layout mode that it is not worth my time.

You should be able to control the width of a table by giving it a fixed
width, ie yours is 700px. I have no idea why it is expanding on the link
you gave beacuse technically it shouldn't, so I would suggest its the
bad code that layout mode writes which is the problem

If you insert content into your table or table cells which is wider than
they are the table/cells will expand to incorporate the element which is
wider.

So for instance if you are trying to insert an image, which is 300px
wide, into a cell which is set at 200px wide, then the cell will expand
to 300px wide, get it?

Suggest you ditch layout mode and learn o work in Standard Mode before
you waste much more of your time.

Oli_Wales

2006-02-07, 10:38 pm

Well i only started using Layout mode a few moments ago when i read a section
on nesting tables. Normally i've been using dreamweaver in standard mode. Yeah,
i think the prolem that im having is that over time, the table has expanded to
about 710px which i can live with, but its the fact that i can't alter the
enitre table width back to it's original 700 if it's exapnds too much.

Osgood

2006-02-07, 10:38 pm

Oli_Wales wrote:

> Well i only started using Layout mode a few moments ago when i read a section
> on nesting tables.

You can nest tables using Standard Mode. layout Mode is bad for your health.

Normally i've been using dreamweaver in standard mode. Yeah,
> i think the prolem that im having is that over time, the table has expanded to
> about 710px which i can live with, but its the fact that i can't alter the
> enitre table width back to it's original 700 if it's exapnds too much.

Probably because the code is so whacked that any change you make
explodes the entire page.

Anyone whose been doing this long enough will tell you the same....
Forget Layout Mode exists.

Gary White

2006-02-07, 10:38 pm

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:12:41 +0000 (UTC), "Oli_Wales"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>Ok, got a table, with a nested table within that but the whole table keeps
>exanding when i inuput text or images...WHY?????? How do i keep Table widths
>consistent and not expanding. It seems impossible!!! :(

You have at least THREE threads going on this subject. How is anyone
supposed to help when the information is going to be that scattered. Try
to keep everything for a particular problem in one thread.

Gary

Oli_Wales

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

hmmm, ok. sorry it seemed that nobody could help in the other posts, so i added a new one. Just in need of some urgency on this problem, University deadlines coming up.

Oli_Wales

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

I started the page fine, in standard mode, and continued working that way until
things started going downhill. If i start the page again what tips would you
give?

Im adding the 700px table by insert> table etc. and adding tables within that
to build on content and nav bars. I have the 700 table with another 700 table
within that (deviding the nav bar from content) split into 3 columns, using
left and right columns as spacers (15px), with the reaming 670px in the middle
for content. Thats where the original 700 table is getting expanded, when i
input data here.

Sorry for being so urgent and rude, and i really appreciate the help.

wizbang

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

This is probably not possible within the same table, but I think it is possible
to do with two different tables using absolute positioning. A more natural way
to do this is with divisions and the DIV tag. I think absolute positioning is
the way that those animated advertisements (Macromedia) are placed on top of a
page on a browser. I'm sure this illustrates the power of the technique.
"Layers" is another topic of information on the same subject

Helpful Harry

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

In article <drdbng$5ec$1@forums.macromedia.com>, "Oli_Wales"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

> Well i only started using Layout mode a few moments ago when i read a section
> on nesting tables. Normally i've been using dreamweaver in standard mode.
> Yeah,
> i think the prolem that im having is that over time, the table has expanded
> to
> about 710px which i can live with, but its the fact that i can't alter the
> enitre table width back to it's original 700 if it's exapnds too much.

If the outer-most table is 700px then you also have to make sure ALL
the tables nested inside it don't get bigger than 700px or at least not
bigger than the width of the cell they're inside. There's no point in
setting the outer-table to 700px when when somewhere inside it is
bigger than it should be.

For example:

Table width = 700px
Table Row
Table Cell width = 50%
Table width = 400px
Table Row
Table Cell
/Table
Table Cell width = 50%
/Table

Isn't going to work since the inner table is set to 400px wide, but the
cell it's in is only 350px wide (50% of 700).

It's VERY easy to have mismatched widths when you're defining them
manually.

Helpful Harry
Hopefully helping harassed humans happily handle handiwork hardships ;o)

.: Nadia :. *TMM*

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

"Oli_Wales" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> hmmm, ok. sorry it seemed that nobody could help in the other posts, so i
> added a new one. Just in need of some urgency on this problem, University
> deadlines coming up.

Have you read any of the replies to your posts? It would have been better
for you learn some basic html so that you could have put a table onto your
page and knew why you were having problems. DW can't do all the work for
you (even though most newbies expect it to), you need to know what the code
is doing so that you can troubleshoot any problems that you will encounter.

Did you have a look at this tutorial:
http://www.dwfaq.com/Tutorials/Tabl...ible_tables.asp

it will teach you all you need to now about tables, nesting a table and a
flexible layout.

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Gary White

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:02:44 +1100, ".: Nadia :. *TMM*"
<forums@NOWAYperrelink.com.au> wrote:

>Have you read any of the replies to your posts?

Apparently not because I explained how to fix it with a nested table in
one of the other threads. I don't have the time to go back and look for
it now.

Gary

.: Nadia :. *TMM*

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

"Gary White" <reply@newsgroup.please> wrote in message
news:lbclt1prss4bu3m9greoh4k4bfvjc2ak7v@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:02:44 +1100, ".: Nadia :. *TMM*"
> <forums@NOWAYperrelink.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> Apparently not because I explained how to fix it with a nested table in
> one of the other threads. I don't have the time to go back and look for
> it now.

Yep I know, that's why I posted the question ;-)
Would have probably finished the page if the initial help was acted on

Nadia

Gary White

2006-02-07, 10:39 pm

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 11:03:59 +1100, ".: Nadia :. *TMM*"
<forums@NOWAYperrelink.com.au> wrote:

>Yep I know, that's why I posted the question ;-)
>Would have probably finished the page if the initial help was acted on

Agreed. I've no more time for him/her.

Gary