Dreamweaver - Design View Bug?

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Design View Bug?

jackibar

2005-11-10, 6:42 pm

Hi, Everyone, I am all set to purchase Dreamweaver 8 after trying the demo, but
have a major problem that I'm hoping you can help me with. I have a couple of
long files that will not render properly in Design view. They show up fine at
the top of the page, but about 2/3 down the page, suddenly the text, etc.,
starts disappearing. It will display if I actually click where the text
"should" be appearing - but if I go to highlight (select) anything in those
areas, it disappears again and I can't see what I'm even highlighting! I had
tried earlier demo versions of Dreamweaver, and the only one that displays
properly is the older one - I believe Dreamweaver 4...? I had just about been
planning to purchase when MX 2004 came out and I tried that demo but that's
when this disappearing problem began so I held off. I wrote your tech support
at the time, but they never responded. I had hoped this DW8 would resolve the
display problem, but it hasn't.

One of the files that does this can be found at:

http://www.overcomingovereating.com/groups.html

BTW, I am using the Macintosh version running under OS 10.4 (Tiger), though
like I said the last version did the same thing on Mac OS 10.2, so I don?t
think Tiger is the issue...

I would really appreciate any help you can give me with this! I really love
Dreamweaver and want to buy it, but I need to know it can display these files
properly since they are 2 I work with more than any others!

Thanks a bunch!

Gary White

2005-11-10, 6:43 pm

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:41:17 +0000 (UTC), "jackibar"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

> One of the files that does this can be found at:
>
> http://www.overcomingovereating.com/groups.html

That's an awful lot of information on one page.

Find this in your source:
<a href="mailto:honeybunny11112000@yahoo.com">E-mail:
honeybunny11112000@yahoo.com<a>

Change it to:
<a href="mailto:honeybunny11112000@yahoo.com">E-mail:
honeybunny11112000@yahoo.com</a>

Note the closing </a> tag.

See if that helps.

Gary

jackibar

2005-11-10, 6:44 pm

Thanks so much for the response, Gary... I tried the change but it did not
help. I also found the other pages I have that have the same problem within
Dreamweaver. One of them I just ran through the W3C Markup Validator and it
comes up "clean" - so I don't understand why it's not displaying properly in
DW... It can be found at:

http://www.ourlittleplace.com/faithbooks.html

Every page I have that has problems is a longer-than-average page - so it's
appearing to me that this is just an inherent bug within DW that it cannot
display but so much of each file before it "chokes" or whatever...
Unfortunately, editing all these pages to be small enough for DW isn't an
option! I think it should work better than this. Did you by chance try to
open the file(s) in your version of DW to see if the disappearing occurs like
it does in mine? I've wondered if it's a Mac version issue (don't know if
you're on Windows or Mac)... Just really curious and hoping there's a way to
fix this!

Thanks again!

Nutsy Waterbelly

2005-11-10, 6:44 pm

When I validated your page, I got a lot of warnings about carriage returns in
the middles of your URI's and just in places that the validator didn't like.
Perhaps it's choking on the funny carriage returns.

My recommendation on how to fix this: find your favorite text editor and do a
search & replace. Then change the settings (they're in there somewhere) not to
break your lines automatically at 80 characters or whatever. There's really no
need for it on most modern hosting machines. It's just a visual preference to
break your lines that way, and most modern text editors will wrap for you.

That said, the lenght of your pages is a bit outrageous. I'm wondering if this
is a RAM problem, as DW MX or later is pretty hefty in the RAM usages dept. 512
would be decent, but 1gb would be way better.

Sorry that I can't really help more than that. Interesting problem though.

Nutsy

Gary White

2005-11-10, 10:23 pm

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:18:54 +0000 (UTC), "jackibar"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>I've wondered if it's a Mac version issue (don't know if
>you're on Windows or Mac)... Just really curious and hoping there's a way to
>fix this!

I have no problem with a file that size on my PC. I don't know whether
it's a Mac problem, or something specific to *your* Mac and/or its
display driver.

Gary

jackibar

2005-11-11, 6:14 am

Thanks for the response, Nutsy... I did what you said and removed all the
carriage returns - no difference. Somewhere right around line 1500 in each of
the files not displaying properly, that's where it messes up. It is really
seeming to me that this is a flaw in DW for Mac since Gary said it doesn't do
it on his PC version... As far as RAM, I have 768 MB installed. BTW, how do
you do a "validate" like you said you did on my code? I did what I thought was
validating but nothing showed up about the abberant carriage returns...

Also - have any of you also used GoLive? I'm wondering about comparison of
features because the GoLive demo does display all these pages properly... I'd
much rather stick with Dreamweaver - especially since there are such helpful
and nice people here on this support forum :)

Thanks again... and any other suggestions are welcome!

Gary White

2005-11-11, 6:14 am

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:14:02 +0000 (UTC), "jackibar"
<webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:

>It is really
>seeming to me that this is a flaw in DW for Mac since Gary said it doesn't do
>it on his PC version...

The thing is, there are a lot of people posting here who use Macs and I
haven't see a similar report from them. While that doesn't rule out the
possibility of it being a DW/Mac problem, my first inclination would be
to think it was something particular to DW on your system.

Gary

Murray *TMM*

2005-11-11, 6:25 pm

For what it's worth, I see the same thing on my G4/Tiger. However, I would
never create a page this long, so I guess it won't affect me. I am also
guessing that this has been a problem with DW for a while.

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"Gary White" <reply@newsgroup.please> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:14:02 +0000 (UTC), "jackibar"
> <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The thing is, there are a lot of people posting here who use Macs and I
> haven't see a similar report from them. While that doesn't rule out the
> possibility of it being a DW/Mac problem, my first inclination would be
> to think it was something particular to DW on your system.
>
> Gary

jackibar

2005-11-11, 6:59 pm

Thanks, Murray - At least I'm not the only one having this weirdness happen!!
Does Macromediate know of this issue, do you know? Are they doing anything to
fix it? Just wondering why it would happen on Macs and not PC's - there must
be some way of fixing this problem!!

Murray *TMM*

2005-11-11, 6:59 pm

I believe that they do know about it, but your reminder would never hurt -

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/

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"jackibar" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Murray - At least I'm not the only one having this weirdness
> happen!!
> Does Macromediate know of this issue, do you know? Are they doing
> anything to
> fix it? Just wondering why it would happen on Macs and not PC's - there
> must
> be some way of fixing this problem!!
>

jackibar

2005-11-11, 6:59 pm

Hi again everyone... Well, I contacted Macromedia Customer Service on this
issue and was basically told I had to BUY the software before they could answer
any questions! I explained I'm trying to find out if this is a bug or whatever
and they said my only option would be this online forum. She was pretty blunt
and said basically I could "waste" 1 of my 2 free tech support calls after I
buy the software to troubleshoot this and I asked if it was indeed a bug that
couldn't be fixed, well then what? That this is a PRE-sales question and she
just said there's no one to ask pre-sales questions. Really bad customer
service attitude in my opinion.

Anyway - just out of curiosity, I went to another site I know of that needs to
access info about each individual State like my page does, and they broke
theirs up into like A-M, N-Z, or whatever... Even their page will not display
in DW 8, so it's not my code at least! This page is at:

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~devo0028/contactA.htm

And again - right around line 1500 is where the text starts "disappearing".
Would the other people using Macs check out this page and see if it happens to
you, too? If so, I do believe we have a legitimate BUG!!!! And just to say
well don't make your page so big is not a good solution since sometimes it's
necessary. For example, another page of mine that won't work is my "guest
book" which of course grows bigger on its own and when I have to edit it, DW
won't display all the way down...

This is really ridiculous for a company to put out a product that has this bug
and they won't even talk to me about it! Sorry, for the mini-rant... but when
I'm considering spending $400 on software, I would like better pre-sales
consideration!

JollyNZ

2005-11-16, 6:33 pm

Here is what I found.....

Upgraded from DreamweaverMX to Dreamweaver 8

When opening files nothing displays in Design View window, either in Design
Only, or Split Screen setting.
Code displays fine in both Split screen or code only view.

To get any content to display in Design view you have to go to
Preferences > Invisible Elements >
then UNCHECK box for Server Side Includes - Show contents of included file

Next Problem: If you now close dreamweaver, ONCE AGAIN no content displays in
Design View.
Once again you have to get any content to display in Design view you have to
go to
Preferences > Invisible Elements >
This time CHECK box for Server Side Includes - Show contents of included file

Then If you close & reopen Dreamweaver you are back to Problem 1!

To get any content to display in Design view you have to go to
Preferences > Invisible Elements >
then UNCHECK box for Server Side Includes - Show contents of included file

And so on and so on

Further troubleshooting indicates it doesnt like the first line being <?xml
version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

jackibar

2005-11-16, 6:33 pm

Thanks, Jolly, for the research and info - I tried this but it didn't do
anything. My problem isn't that nothing ever displays in Design View - only
that after about line 1500-1600 of code then the display disappears... I've
heard back from Macromedia and they say this is indeed a known bug in the Mac
version only and that they are working on it. No clue when/if it iwll get
fixed though :(

howlevin

2006-11-19, 2:55 pm

I am having the same problem - lengthy documents fail to display below approximately 500 lines. Working with Dreamweaver 8 on several different Mac machines - all do this. This is incredibly anoying. Please let me know if you discover a fix.

quote:
Originally posted by jackibar
Thanks, Jolly, for the research and info - I tried this but it didn't do
anything. My problem isn't that nothing ever displays in Design View - only
that after about line 1500-1600 of code then the display disappears... I've
heard back from Macromedia and they say this is indeed a known bug in the Mac
version only and that they are working on it. No clue when/if it iwll get
fixed though :(