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Generall CSS Questions

Neil Smith

2005-09-13, 7:32 pm

Dear All,
this is a very general question about the nature of CSS. Can conflicts arise
where the style properties of one selector interferes with the properties of
another.

Murray *TMM*

2005-09-13, 7:32 pm

Well, by virtue of the Rule of Greater Specificities, one rule can take
precedence over another rule, when both apply to the same element.

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"Neil Smith" <savispud2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Dear All,
> this is a very general question about the nature of CSS. Can conflicts
> arise where the style properties of one selector interferes with the
> properties of another.
>

Michael Fesser

2005-09-13, 7:32 pm

..oO(Neil Smith)

>this is a very general question about the nature of CSS. Can conflicts arise
>where the style properties of one selector interferes with the properties of
>another.

Yep. That's why it's called _Cascading_ Stylesheets: Multiple selectors
may apply to the same element(s).

Micha

P@tty Ayers

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

"Neil Smith" <savispud2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Dear All,
> this is a very general question about the nature of CSS. Can conflicts
> arise where the style properties of one selector interferes with the
> properties of another.

No. The whole point of CSS is that there is a set of rules to determine
which style trumps which.

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Murray *TMM*

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

Uhh - read the question again.

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> "Neil Smith" <savispud2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> No. The whole point of CSS is that there is a set of rules to determine
> which style trumps which.
>
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P@tty Ayers

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

I did. ?

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P@tty Ayers

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

And what is this "conflict" like? Is certain text both green *and* red,
until the conflict is resolved?

You must mean something different by "conflict" than I would understand it
to mean. :-)

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"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Rules conflict all the time. They interfere with each other all the time.
> That's what the specificity is all about.
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Murray *TMM*

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

Rules conflict all the time. They interfere with each other all the time.
That's what the specificity is all about.

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P@tty Ayers

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

There must be some kind of semantic misunderstanding here. What would be a
"conflict"? Would the two rules duke it out on the page until one was down
for a count of ten? :-)

My understanding is that any "conflicts" are instantly resolved by the
browser's interpretation of the style sheet.

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Murray *TMM*

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

> Would the two rules duke it out on the page until one was down for a count
> of ten? :-)

Yes. Precisely.

This stylesheet would create a conflict:

..navigation { color:red; }
..breadcrumb { color:blue; }

....
<p class="navigation breadcrumb">What color am I?</p>

and in this case the winner is the one closer to the element being styled.

Is that not a conflict?

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"P@tty Ayers" <patty@REMOVEcarolinawebsolutions.com> wrote in message
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> There must be some kind of semantic misunderstanding here. What would be a
> "conflict"? Would the two rules duke it out on the page until one was down
> for a count of ten? :-)
>
> My understanding is that any "conflicts" are instantly resolved by the
> browser's interpretation of the style sheet.
>
>
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Michael Fesser

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

..oO(P@tty Ayers)

>And what is this "conflict" like? Is certain text both green *and* red,
>until the conflict is resolved?
>
>You must mean something different by "conflict" than I would understand it
>to mean. :-)

Multiple rules may apply to the same element at the same time, that's
what I would call a "conflict". And CSS defines rules how to resolve it
(order, specificity etc.)

BTW:
This "conflict" is a quite important part of CSS, it's "the cascade".

Micha

P@tty Ayers

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

"Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> .oO(P@tty Ayers)
>
>
> Multiple rules may apply to the same element at the same time, that's
> what I would call a "conflict". And CSS defines rules how to resolve it
> (order, specificity etc.)
>
> BTW:
> This "conflict" is a quite important part of CSS, it's "the cascade".

Ok, we're all saying the same thing. To me, a conflict which is resolved by
rules written for that purpose is no longer a conflict. That's why I
answered "no". But I can understand now why you and Murray said otherwise;
it's just a different way of understanding the word "conflict" in that
context.

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P@tty Ayers

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yes. Precisely.
>
> This stylesheet would create a conflict:
>
> .navigation { color:red; }
> .breadcrumb { color:blue; }
>
> ...
> <p class="navigation breadcrumb">What color am I?</p>
>
> and in this case the winner is the one closer to the element being styled.
>
> Is that not a conflict?

Honestly, no, I would not call a conflict which is instantaneously resolved
a conflict. But I do see why you say that. I think we're all saying the same
thing, but the words are getting in the way. :-)

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Michael Fesser

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

..oO(P@tty Ayers)

>Ok, we're all saying the same thing. To me, a conflict which is resolved by
>rules written for that purpose is no longer a conflict. That's why I
>answered "no". But I can understand now why you and Murray said otherwise;
>it's just a different way of understanding the word "conflict" in that
>context.

OK, agreed.

Micha

Murray *TMM*

2005-09-13, 7:33 pm

Dang words. From now on, I'll answer all posts in ASL....

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> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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>
> Honestly, no, I would not call a conflict which is instantaneously
> resolved a conflict. But I do see why you say that. I think we're all
> saying the same thing, but the words are getting in the way. :-)
>
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Al Sparber- PVII

2005-09-14, 4:20 am

"Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.de> wrote in message
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What happened with Neil?

;-)