Dreamweaver - Frames problem

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Frames problem

Kutteruk

2005-07-06, 11:26 pm

Hi,

I have just created a website with frames (my first frames site) and I am
having difficulty understanding how the site 'works' because the index.htm file
does not show the website. The frameset one however does.

I'll explain a little more to make this clear (i hope)

I have a frameset called bentley_frameset. if I open this in Dreamweaver the
main page of the site opens. With the frame at the top holding my logo and
navigation and index.htm underneath showing the default text for the homepage.
However, if I open the index.htm file on its own the top frame dissapears and
all i get is the default text for the homepage onscreen (no top frame just,
just the contents of index.htm)

So my question is, how does this 'work' when I upload it to the server? if the
server opens up index.htm as the default page (which of course it will) then my
top frame will not be displayed so how do I do this?

Is it something i've done wrong in my setup of the frames?

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks

Kutter.

NedTheDog

2005-07-06, 11:26 pm

If you have a frameset, the other "windows" or frames nest inside the main one.
For example, header frame, a navigation frame, and a content frame all sit
inside the outer enclosing frame. All must be saved individually as its own
page. They have to be named so if you push a button in navigation.html it
targets a change in content.html.

StudentofPeace

2005-07-06, 11:26 pm

You need the index.htm file to be the frameset. Rename bentley_frameset
"index.htm." Then "index.htm" will display all parts of your frameset. When
you upload, be sure to upload index.htm and the pages that represent each part
of your frameset (ex: "header.htm," "sidebar.htm," "main.htm"). :-)

NedTheDog

2005-07-07, 4:18 am

Thanks, StudentofPeace. I forgot to type index.html as the encompassing frame
in my post. I remembered it after I sent my message.
Kutterick - in my example - 2. header frame, 3. a navigation frame, and a 4.
content frame, all sit inside #1. index.html
Go wild with layers in the frames. It's fun. There are some drawbacks to
frames. After you explore how they work, study cascading style sheets. That's
where it's at and going.

Murray *TMM*

2005-07-07, 7:25 pm

Don't use frames at all. If you are confused this early, your experience is
going to be painful.

Build flat pages. Link them together.

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"Kutteruk" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:dai31t$5vj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have just created a website with frames (my first frames site) and I am
> having difficulty understanding how the site 'works' because the index.htm
> file
> does not show the website. The frameset one however does.
>
> I'll explain a little more to make this clear (i hope)
>
> I have a frameset called bentley_frameset. if I open this in Dreamweaver
> the
> main page of the site opens. With the frame at the top holding my logo and
> navigation and index.htm underneath showing the default text for the
> homepage.
> However, if I open the index.htm file on its own the top frame dissapears
> and
> all i get is the default text for the homepage onscreen (no top frame
> just,
> just the contents of index.htm)
>
> So my question is, how does this 'work' when I upload it to the server? if
> the
> server opens up index.htm as the default page (which of course it will)
> then my
> top frame will not be displayed so how do I do this?
>
> Is it something i've done wrong in my setup of the frames?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks
>
> Kutter.
>
>
>

Kutteruk

2005-07-07, 7:28 pm

LOL, why does everyone hate frames so much?

'If your confused this early, your experience is going to be painful... Hmm
REALLY not very helpful, why waste time to put a reply like that up? Is it just
to show how stupid I am?

Anyway to the people that helped... My thanks, I'm not really sure I
understand however...

Dreamweaver has let me make the site this way, why is that? I have done it as
per instructions in books and on the web... I just dont 'get' why the main page
(the homepage) is not index.htm... but bentley_frameset.htm.

Can I really just rename it? I don't want to try through fear of messing it up
and having to start over, thats something I dont want to do as I'm actually
really happy with the begginings I have made. I'm using CSS (properly as far as
I understand it) everything works, and as I have stated I just don't 'get' how
to set up a frameset and have the mainpage of it called index.htm...

Could someone offer a description of exactly what I 'should' have done here?
As far as im concerned I have done this right but am missing a chunk of
information that helps me put it together in my mind...

Thx again, (most of you)

Kutter.

Joe Mackey

2005-07-13, 4:29 am

Kutteruk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just created a website with frames (my first frames site) and I am
> having difficulty understanding how the site 'works' because the index.htm file
> does not show the website. The frameset one however does.
>
> I'll explain a little more to make this clear (i hope)
>
> I have a frameset called bentley_frameset. if I open this in Dreamweaver the
> main page of the site opens. With the frame at the top holding my logo and
> navigation and index.htm underneath showing the default text for the homepage.
> However, if I open the index.htm file on its own the top frame dissapears and
> all i get is the default text for the homepage onscreen (no top frame just,
> just the contents of index.htm)
>
> So my question is, how does this 'work' when I upload it to the server? if the
> server opens up index.htm as the default page (which of course it will) then my
> top frame will not be displayed so how do I do this?
>
> Is it something i've done wrong in my setup of the frames?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks
>
> Kutter.
>
>
>

Kutter
All you need to do is rename the framset called bentley_frameset as
index.htm
Then you can save the index portion of your home page as index-1 or
something so you know it is the child of that frameset. But you need to
name the main framset index.htm and the content page as anything you
like except index.htm. Good luck

Joe