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Sookie68

2005-03-09, 6:37 pm

:confused;

I have a table within a table. When I change the cells (add text, form,
image, etc.) within the embedded table I want the table to STAY THE SAME WIDTH.
It appears that the width will change whether or not I change the width of the
cells... This is making me crazy ! Just when I think I've "got it" I preview
the page and it's way wider than it was / it should be / I want it to be...
I've got spacer images inserted at every opportunity.

Feel like I'm chasing my tail - wah, wah, wah...

Thank you.

Melissa



bknowlden01

2005-03-09, 6:37 pm

got a link I can look at?
Murray *TMM*

2005-03-09, 6:37 pm

Sounds like neither - but perhaps deeply undereducated in the ways of HTML
tables would fill the bill.

Quit trying to bludgeon tables into shape, and pay attention to the CONTENTS
of the tables. After all, they will offer structure to the table from
within, and that's the most reliable way to do it.

Run through the table tutorials at the DW FAQ and come back to let me know
if that helped.

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"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nm0h$l1r$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> :confused;
>
> I have a table within a table. When I change the cells (add text, form,
> image, etc.) within the embedded table I want the table to STAY THE SAME
> WIDTH.
> It appears that the width will change whether or not I change the width of
> the
> cells... This is making me crazy ! Just when I think I've "got it" I
> preview
> the page and it's way wider than it was / it should be / I want it to
> be...
> I've got spacer images inserted at every opportunity.
>
> Feel like I'm chasing my tail - wah, wah, wah...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Melissa
>
>
>



CMBergin

2005-03-09, 6:37 pm

Probably insane. ;)

Images will stretch the cell as needed, no matter what your width setting.
Same with unbroken text, that is, words with no spaces. If you're using
"&nbsp;" for spaces (have "allow multiple consecutive spaces" option turned
on), then that's not considered a "real" space and won't allow the text to
move to the next line. (It stands for "Non-Breaking SPace")
Form elements will also stretch a cell if they need to because they can't
break.



"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nm0h$l1r$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> :confused;
>
> I have a table within a table. When I change the cells (add text, form,
> image, etc.) within the embedded table I want the table to STAY THE SAME

WIDTH.
> It appears that the width will change whether or not I change the width

of the
> cells... This is making me crazy ! Just when I think I've "got it" I

preview
> the page and it's way wider than it was / it should be / I want it to

be...
> I've got spacer images inserted at every opportunity.
>
> Feel like I'm chasing my tail - wah, wah, wah...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Melissa
>
>
>



Sookie68

2005-03-09, 6:37 pm

you may take a look at the mess here...as you can see the highly touted
ProjectSeven PopMenuMagic isn't working either... thank you for offering to
help. don't be shy about telling me what you think. i've no pride left.

http://www.cinnabar.cc/nepclrsvc.htm

Murray *TMM*

2005-03-09, 6:37 pm

Could it be because you have not uploaded this -

p7pm/p7popmenu.js

???

I guess so.

--
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"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nnc7$n8q$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> you may take a look at the mess here...as you can see the highly touted
> ProjectSeven PopMenuMagic isn't working either... thank you for offering
> to
> help. don't be shy about telling me what you think. i've no pride left.
>
> http://www.cinnabar.cc/nepclrsvc.htm
>



Sookie68

2005-03-09, 6:38 pm

thanks for the tips (and the insanity judgement ) have a bit more hope at the
moment...receiving a reply - knowing someone is out there helps. i will take
TMM's tip and go through the tables tutorial again.
:D

Sookie68

2005-03-09, 6:38 pm

bludgeon - ? good call on your part. i will take your suggestion and go
through the tutorial - will let you know how things progress. thank you for
the reply. it helps to know i'm not alone with my struggles. :)

CMBergin

2005-03-09, 6:38 pm

Good tutorials can often restore one's sanity. ;)
Good luck.

"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nqnt$s42$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> thanks for the tips (and the insanity judgement ) have a bit more hope at

the
> moment...receiving a reply - knowing someone is out there helps. i will

take
> TMM's tip and go through the tables tutorial again.
> :D
>



Murray *TMM*

2005-03-09, 6:38 pm

You're welcome.

Finesse, not force.... 8)

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"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> bludgeon - ? good call on your part. i will take your suggestion and go
> through the tutorial - will let you know how things progress. thank you
> for
> the reply. it helps to know i'm not alone with my struggles. :)
>



Bonnie in Alameda

2005-03-10, 4:20 am

Sookie68 wrote:
> thanks for the tips (and the insanity judgement ) have a bit more hope at the
> moment...receiving a reply - knowing someone is out there helps. i will take
> TMM's tip and go through the tables tutorial again.
> :D
>


As I read this, no one has posted this tip, so here goes:

PVII has above-and-beyond support, so had you posted yhour problem in
their forums (yeah, I know, Mick, "fora," you probably would already
have this sorted:

http://www.projectseven.com/support/index.htm


--
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Sookie68

2005-03-10, 6:28 pm

:o
The saga continues... I've looked, searched and inquired but am unable to find a tutorial on tables - ?

Thanks again. Sorry to be such a pain.
Murray *TMM*

2005-03-10, 6:28 pm

Look at my signature below. Click on the link to the DW FAQ. 'nuff said?

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"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0pk33$l5d$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> :o
> The saga continues... I've looked, searched and inquired but am unable to
> find a tutorial on tables - ?
>
> Thanks again. Sorry to be such a pain.



Sookie68

2005-03-10, 6:29 pm

"Thank you", she answered sheepishly.
Murray *TMM*

2005-03-10, 6:29 pm

Go for it. And forget this sheepish stuff! 8)

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"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> "Thank you", she answered sheepishly.



CMBergin

2005-03-16, 6:18 pm

Probably insane. ;)

Images will stretch the cell as needed, no matter what your width setting.
Same with unbroken text, that is, words with no spaces. If you're using
"&nbsp;" for spaces (have "allow multiple consecutive spaces" option turned
on), then that's not considered a "real" space and won't allow the text to
move to the next line. (It stands for "Non-Breaking SPace")
Form elements will also stretch a cell if they need to because they can't
break.



"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nm0h$l1r$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> :confused;
>
> I have a table within a table. When I change the cells (add text, form,
> image, etc.) within the embedded table I want the table to STAY THE SAME

WIDTH.
> It appears that the width will change whether or not I change the width

of the
> cells... This is making me crazy ! Just when I think I've "got it" I

preview
> the page and it's way wider than it was / it should be / I want it to

be...
> I've got spacer images inserted at every opportunity.
>
> Feel like I'm chasing my tail - wah, wah, wah...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Melissa
>
>
>



Murray *TMM*

2005-03-16, 6:19 pm

Sounds like neither - but perhaps deeply undereducated in the ways of HTML
tables would fill the bill.

Quit trying to bludgeon tables into shape, and pay attention to the CONTENTS
of the tables. After all, they will offer structure to the table from
within, and that's the most reliable way to do it.

Run through the table tutorials at the DW FAQ and come back to let me know
if that helped.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================

"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nm0h$l1r$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> :confused;
>
> I have a table within a table. When I change the cells (add text, form,
> image, etc.) within the embedded table I want the table to STAY THE SAME
> WIDTH.
> It appears that the width will change whether or not I change the width of
> the
> cells... This is making me crazy ! Just when I think I've "got it" I
> preview
> the page and it's way wider than it was / it should be / I want it to
> be...
> I've got spacer images inserted at every opportunity.
>
> Feel like I'm chasing my tail - wah, wah, wah...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Melissa
>
>
>



Sookie68

2005-03-16, 6:29 pm

you may take a look at the mess here...as you can see the highly touted
ProjectSeven PopMenuMagic isn't working either... thank you for offering to
help. don't be shy about telling me what you think. i've no pride left.

http://www.cinnabar.cc/nepclrsvc.htm

Murray *TMM*

2005-03-16, 6:29 pm

Could it be because you have not uploaded this -

p7pm/p7popmenu.js

???

I guess so.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================

"Sookie68" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0nnc7$n8q$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> you may take a look at the mess here...as you can see the highly touted
> ProjectSeven PopMenuMagic isn't working either... thank you for offering
> to
> help. don't be shy about telling me what you think. i've no pride left.
>
> http://www.cinnabar.cc/nepclrsvc.htm
>



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