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linkot

2005-03-06, 6:27 pm

If you would be so kind, please view http://linkot.tripod.com/test.html The
page is 778 pixels wide and this has always worked for me in the past.
However, for some unknown reason this page triggers a horizontal scroll bar
only in Foxfire. It is fine in IE and Netscape. Thanks.

Murray *TMM*

2005-03-06, 6:30 pm

I get no images in either browser, and no horizontal scroll until I make the
viewport <788px.

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"linkot" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0fd8c$n06$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> If you would be so kind, please view http://linkot.tripod.com/test.html
> The
> page is 778 pixels wide and this has always worked for me in the past.
> However, for some unknown reason this page triggers a horizontal scroll
> bar
> only in Foxfire. It is fine in IE and Netscape. Thanks.
>



linkot

2005-03-06, 6:31 pm

Without changing the viewport, I see the bottom bar that permits horizontal
scroll, however it doesn't scroll because the page is tight. I don't want to
see the bar ... it shouldn't be there with the width only 778. I moved the
site from Tripod ... you will have a cleaner view
http://www.dawnjohnsonart.com/test.html Thanks Murray. Linda

Gary White

2005-03-06, 6:31 pm

"linkot" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0flev$3jt$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>Without changing the viewport, I see the bottom bar that permits
>horizontal scroll, however it doesn't scroll because the page is
>tight. I don't want to see the bar ... it shouldn't be there
>with the width only 778. I moved the site from Tripod ... you
>will have a cleaner view
> http://www.dawnjohnsonart.com/test.html Thanks Murray. Linda



Your math is a bit inconsistent. You have a table defined to be 777 pixels
wide. In that, you place another table and tell that table to be 778 pixels
wide. In that table, you put four columns that add up to 779 pixels wide.
That means that your table(s) cannot contract to less than 779 pixels wide.
When you add to that the widths of the browser borders and the vertical
scroll bar, you wind up with a page that will require a horizontal scroll
bar inn a maximized browser on an 800 pixel wide screen.

Gary


linkot

2005-03-06, 11:16 pm

Thanks Gary ... but even with that extra pixel removed ... and the width reduced within the main frame ... same situation.

Gary White

2005-03-06, 11:16 pm

"linkot" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0g1ra$i0i$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>Thanks Gary ... but even with that extra pixel removed ... and
>the width reduced within the main frame ... same situation.


What situation? If you want to avoid a horizontal scroll bar in a maximized
browser on an 800 px screen, your content cannot be that wide. The vertical
scroll bar takes up space. The browser borders take up space. If you want to
avoid the horizontal scroll bar, you need to keep the content down to 760
pixels or so wide. The actual figure will vary depending on the O/S and
desktop theme selected by the user.

If you're on a Windows machine, try a little experiment: Start the Control
Panel > Display applet. Click the Appearance tab and then the Advanced
button. You'll now see a dialog with a representation of various UI
elements. Click on the Scroll bar. Now, in the bottom of the dialog change
the width of the scroll bar to something 30. Click OK. Now view your page.
;-) Now go back and repeat the process, and change the width of the scroll
bar to something like 8. Now look at your page.

The point is, you cannot know exactly how much screen real estate your page
can have. Using something like 760 will be a little safer.

Gary


linkot

2005-03-06, 11:16 pm

Thanks for your time and expertise. Much appreciated. Linda
Gary White

2005-03-07, 6:28 pm

linkot wrote:

>Thanks for your time and expertise. Much appreciated. Linda



Good luck!


Gary
Murray *TMM*

2005-03-13, 4:20 am

I get no images in either browser, and no horizontal scroll until I make the
viewport <788px.

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Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"linkot" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0fd8c$n06$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> If you would be so kind, please view http://linkot.tripod.com/test.html
> The
> page is 778 pixels wide and this has always worked for me in the past.
> However, for some unknown reason this page triggers a horizontal scroll
> bar
> only in Foxfire. It is fine in IE and Netscape. Thanks.
>



linkot

2005-03-13, 4:20 am

Without changing the viewport, I see the bottom bar that permits horizontal
scroll, however it doesn't scroll because the page is tight. I don't want to
see the bar ... it shouldn't be there with the width only 778. I moved the
site from Tripod ... you will have a cleaner view
http://www.dawnjohnsonart.com/test.html Thanks Murray. Linda

Gary White

2005-03-13, 4:21 am

"linkot" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0flev$3jt$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>Without changing the viewport, I see the bottom bar that permits
>horizontal scroll, however it doesn't scroll because the page is
>tight. I don't want to see the bar ... it shouldn't be there
>with the width only 778. I moved the site from Tripod ... you
>will have a cleaner view
> http://www.dawnjohnsonart.com/test.html Thanks Murray. Linda



Your math is a bit inconsistent. You have a table defined to be 777 pixels
wide. In that, you place another table and tell that table to be 778 pixels
wide. In that table, you put four columns that add up to 779 pixels wide.
That means that your table(s) cannot contract to less than 779 pixels wide.
When you add to that the widths of the browser borders and the vertical
scroll bar, you wind up with a page that will require a horizontal scroll
bar inn a maximized browser on an 800 pixel wide screen.

Gary


Gary White

2005-03-13, 7:15 am

"linkot" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:d0g1ra$i0i$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>Thanks Gary ... but even with that extra pixel removed ... and
>the width reduced within the main frame ... same situation.


What situation? If you want to avoid a horizontal scroll bar in a maximized
browser on an 800 px screen, your content cannot be that wide. The vertical
scroll bar takes up space. The browser borders take up space. If you want to
avoid the horizontal scroll bar, you need to keep the content down to 760
pixels or so wide. The actual figure will vary depending on the O/S and
desktop theme selected by the user.

If you're on a Windows machine, try a little experiment: Start the Control
Panel > Display applet. Click the Appearance tab and then the Advanced
button. You'll now see a dialog with a representation of various UI
elements. Click on the Scroll bar. Now, in the bottom of the dialog change
the width of the scroll bar to something 30. Click OK. Now view your page.
;-) Now go back and repeat the process, and change the width of the scroll
bar to something like 8. Now look at your page.

The point is, you cannot know exactly how much screen real estate your page
can have. Using something like 760 will be a little safer.

Gary


linkot

2005-03-13, 7:15 am

Thanks for your time and expertise. Much appreciated. Linda
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