Dreamweaver - IE6 selection bug fix not working

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IE6 selection bug fix not working

The Little One

2005-01-07, 12:14 pm

Hello,

I had to do some SEO on a website for someone and converted the site to a
CSS-P site. I adapted parts of P7's Carrollton to do this.
However the client is used to selecting, copying and pasting text from his
website and now he can't do it. I was told that this was due to a bug in
IE6 and AP divs. I added some javascript from
http://blog.tom.me.uk/2003/07/23/boie6selecta.php and it seems to have fixed
the problem when I preview locally.

I uploaded the modified pages, but it's not working on the live site which
can be found at www.extremewest.co.uk

For the time being I've told the client to download Firefox and use that
instead, but it's a bit cheeky of me to expect him to have to do this and I
would like to get the problem sorted asap.

If anyone can shed some light on it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Vicky

Murray *TMM*

2005-01-07, 12:15 pm

That's a heavy load.

Text selection is working for me in IE6....

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"The Little One" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I had to do some SEO on a website for someone and converted the site to a
> CSS-P site. I adapted parts of P7's Carrollton to do this.
> However the client is used to selecting, copying and pasting text from his
> website and now he can't do it. I was told that this was due to a bug in
> IE6 and AP divs. I added some javascript from
> http://blog.tom.me.uk/2003/07/23/boie6selecta.php and it seems to have
> fixed
> the problem when I preview locally.
>
> I uploaded the modified pages, but it's not working on the live site which
> can be found at www.extremewest.co.uk
>
> For the time being I've told the client to download Firefox and use that
> instead, but it's a bit cheeky of me to expect him to have to do this and
> I
> would like to get the problem sorted asap.
>
> If anyone can shed some light on it, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> Vicky
>

The Little One

2005-01-07, 12:15 pm

> That's a heavy load.

You should have seen it before I did any work on it! It was a huge pile of
tables, within tables, within tables. I tried to reduce it as much as
possible. (It's not my design either I hasten to add.)

> Text selection is working for me in IE6....

Can you browse around the site and see if selecting text is working on the
categoryview and experienceview pages please? It seems that selecting text
works on the home page at first, but if I move around, then come back to the
home page it doesn't.

I've noticed some other odd behaviour in that when I first bring up the
homepage, it's as if it's not quite reading the style sheet correctly. The
blue bars behind the buttons should stretch the entire the width of the red
column and they don't until I move to another page.

Vicky

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> That's a heavy load.
>
> Text selection is working for me in IE6....
>
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Murray *TMM*

2005-01-07, 12:15 pm

Note - while you have a valid and complete doctype on the page, the presence
of the HTML comments above the <html> tag is going to force your browser
into quirks mode. This kind of defeats the purpose of the doctype, doncha
know?

I wonder if this obnoxious thing is causing you problems -

<body onLoad="desliza(); return true;">

No, I see that this is not it.

I also see that your select text is not working on the inner pages.

Tell me - did it work BEFORE you took over the site?

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"The Little One" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> You should have seen it before I did any work on it! It was a huge pile
> of tables, within tables, within tables. I tried to reduce it as much as
> possible. (It's not my design either I hasten to add.)
>
>
> Can you browse around the site and see if selecting text is working on the
> categoryview and experienceview pages please? It seems that selecting
> text works on the home page at first, but if I move around, then come back
> to the home page it doesn't.
>
> I've noticed some other odd behaviour in that when I first bring up the
> homepage, it's as if it's not quite reading the style sheet correctly.
> The blue bars behind the buttons should stretch the entire the width of
> the red column and they don't until I move to another page.
>
> Vicky
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:crm0ul$51l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>
>

The Little One

2005-01-07, 12:15 pm

I don't know where the comments before the doctype get added. I can't find
them in the code of any of the files I have. I'll have to contact the
original designer about it.

> Tell me - did it work BEFORE you took over the site?
Before I worked on the site, it didn't use css or divs at all, so by adding
them I've created the problem.

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:crm3mp$820$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Note - while you have a valid and complete doctype on the page, the
> presence of the HTML comments above the <html> tag is going to force your
> browser into quirks mode. This kind of defeats the purpose of the
> doctype, doncha know?
>
> I wonder if this obnoxious thing is causing you problems -
>
> <body onLoad="desliza(); return true;">
>
> No, I see that this is not it.
>
> I also see that your select text is not working on the inner pages.
>
> Tell me - did it work BEFORE you took over the site?
>
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>
>

Murray *TMM*

2005-01-07, 12:15 pm

Wait - the text selection worked before adding the CSS?

Hmm - I believe I recall something about floats causing this problem. Are
you using floats there?

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"The Little One" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I don't know where the comments before the doctype get added. I can't find
>them in the code of any of the files I have. I'll have to contact the
>original designer about it.
>
> Before I worked on the site, it didn't use css or divs at all, so by
> adding them I've created the problem.
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:crm3mp$820$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>
>

The Little One

2005-01-07, 7:15 pm

> Wait - the text selection worked before adding the CSS?

It must have done, as the client was copying and pasting to his heart's
content before I did anything.

> Hmm - I believe I recall something about floats causing this problem. Are
> you using floats there?

I was at first, but I think I got rid of them all... I'll check.

V.

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Wait - the text selection worked before adding the CSS?
>
> Hmm - I believe I recall something about floats causing this problem. Are
> you using floats there?
>
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CMBergin

2005-01-07, 7:15 pm

Again, a reply I made earlier was eaten. :(

Something that may get us all looking at the same place:
The IE text selection bug only occurs in standards mode. It does not exist
in quirks mode, nor in any version of IE5. That tells me that it's a
regression bug related to the box model changes made for IE6's standards
mode. Not that it matters to our discussion here, I just ramble sometimes.
Anyway, Murray said that your home page had some comments above the HTML
tag, which causes IE6 to revert to quirks mode. Your home page is the only
page on which text selection works. Therefore, I'd surmise that the text
selection fix has actually NOT been applied to your pages, regardless of the
fact that you clearly put it there. The fact that selection works on the
home page is just a consequence of that particular page being in quirks
mode.

All that being said, I looked at your "extreme zone" page. The fix depends
on IE having calculated the document dimensions already. I would suggest
moving the text selection fix BELOW any and all style imports, style tags,
conditional IE style tags, etc, so that it's last in your <head> section.
Having the IE conditional styles below the fix may be causing IE to
recalculate the page using its normal method, and erasing the changes the
fix made.

See if moving the fix script fixes the problem.

"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:crm63t$aif$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Wait - the text selection worked before adding the CSS?
>
> Hmm - I believe I recall something about floats causing this problem. Are
> you using floats there?
>
> --
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> "The Little One" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Murray *TMM*

2005-01-10, 4:14 am

Brilliant. Thank you!

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"CMBergin" <NoHarvestForYou@NoSpam.org> wrote in message
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> Again, a reply I made earlier was eaten. :(
>
> Something that may get us all looking at the same place:
> The IE text selection bug only occurs in standards mode. It does not
> exist
> in quirks mode, nor in any version of IE5. That tells me that it's a
> regression bug related to the box model changes made for IE6's standards
> mode. Not that it matters to our discussion here, I just ramble
> sometimes.
> Anyway, Murray said that your home page had some comments above the HTML
> tag, which causes IE6 to revert to quirks mode. Your home page is the
> only
> page on which text selection works. Therefore, I'd surmise that the text
> selection fix has actually NOT been applied to your pages, regardless of
> the
> fact that you clearly put it there. The fact that selection works on the
> home page is just a consequence of that particular page being in quirks
> mode.
>
> All that being said, I looked at your "extreme zone" page. The fix
> depends
> on IE having calculated the document dimensions already. I would suggest
> moving the text selection fix BELOW any and all style imports, style tags,
> conditional IE style tags, etc, so that it's last in your <head> section.
> Having the IE conditional styles below the fix may be causing IE to
> recalculate the page using its normal method, and erasing the changes the
> fix made.
>
> See if moving the fix script fixes the problem.
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:crm63t$aif$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> find
> your
> pile
> the
> of
> from
> bug
> have
> this
>
>

The Little One

2005-01-10, 7:16 pm

Murray *TMM*

2005-01-10, 7:17 pm

Murray *TMM*

2005-01-12, 12:15 pm