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Author Re: Pop-Up Menu in Frames
Murray *TMM*

2004-09-18, 7:15 pm

The reason for using or not using frames should be based on a) your site's
needs, and b) your willingness to accept the potential problems that frames
can create for you as developer and maintainer of the site and for your
visitors as casual users of the site.

I am down on frames because I believe that they create many more problems
than they solve.
Judging from the posts here, and the kinds of problems that are described,
the kind of person most likely to elect to use frames is also the kind of
person most likely ill-prepared fo solve the ensuing problems when they
arise. If you feel a) that you understand the problems and b) that you are
prepared to handle them when they occur, and c) that you have a need to use
frames, then by all means use them.

As far as I know, the most comprehensive discussions of frames and their
potential problems can be found on these two links -

http://apptools.com/rants/framesevil.php
http://www.tjkdesign.com/resources/frames/

There is no practical way to make a layer (that's how drop-down menus work)
cross the boundary between two separate frames (i.e., two unique HTML
pages).

It is true. Your choices are limited now -

1. DUMP THE FRAMES - you would not be having this problem in a non-framed
site.
2. Redesign your menus so that they do not need to span a frame boundary.
3. Redesign the frameset so that you leave enough room for the largest
popup.
4. Move the layer code for the popups from the page in the navigation frame
to each page in the content frame.
5. DUMP THE FRAMES - you would not be having this problem in a non-framed
site.

I recommend either #1 or #5, depending on what your needs are. You just
have no idea the horrors that await you if you continue with the frames.....
8)

As for the pop-up menus, read these carefully -

http://apptools.com/rants/jsmenu.php
http://apptools.com/rants/menus.php


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"Thierry Koblentz" <thierry@212utah.invalid> wrote in message
news:cii4fu$sat$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>
> IMHO, this is not a good reason. For maintenance purpose, there are other
> options out there (SSI, Templates, etc.)
>
>
> How big is your popup menu script already? You have to understand that
> using
> another script solution to have it working "across-frames" will make that
> puppy even bigger. And I don't buy the "it's OK it's gonna be in the cache
> thing" because for the script to be in the cache, the user needs to not
> leave your site before the first page loads ;)
>
> HTH,
> Thierry
>
> McCheez wrote:
>
>



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