Dreamweaver - site review needed! www.southdaytona.org

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site review needed! www.southdaytona.org

southdaytona

2004-09-15, 7:15 pm

I've got a problem with spacing, its quite clear when you go to
www.southdaytona.org, there are big gaps in between the first picture and the
next two, and then another big gap between the second group of pictures and the
text. It doesn't look like this in dreamweaver, but when i do a preview and
post it on the server it looks like crap. How do i get rid of those gaps?
I've got all the tables set vertically to "top". Any help would be appreciated.

thanks, mike.

Big Hairy Viking

2004-09-15, 7:15 pm

Remove the "height" attribute from the tables wherever possible. Chances
are that the table is set very high, and the rows and cells are trying to
space themselves vertically.

[unsolicited advice] Your site is loading very slowly, BTW. Could be the
server load, but there's also quite a bit of javascript and a number of
graphics involved with the rollovers. You could alleviate most of that with
CSS rollovers on plain text. I guess hurricane clean-up is a higher
priority, though. ;-)

southdaytona

2004-09-15, 7:15 pm

ok, thanks i'll check on that.

Thanks for the comments. I know the site has numerous issues, loading times
being one of them, I'll look into redoing it with css. I'd like to redo the
entire site, but being a small city i have other duties that take me away from
working on it and the time isn't there.

thanks again.
mike.

Gary White

2004-09-15, 7:15 pm

southdaytona wrote:

>I've got a problem with spacing, its quite clear when you go to
>www.southdaytona.org, there are big gaps in between the first picture and the
>next two, and then another big gap between the second group of pictures and the
>text. It doesn't look like this in dreamweaver, but when i do a preview and
>post it on the server it looks like crap. How do i get rid of those gaps?
>I've got all the tables set vertically to "top". Any help would be appreciated.

Once it finally loaded, and it took a REALLY long time to load on a fast
cable connection, I notice that you have two <body> tags in the page. It
would appear that you have a <body> tag in a Library Item, which is
strictly forbidden.

I tried getting a speed report from websiteoptimization.com, but I've
been waiting for over five minutes and it hasn't finished yet. I tried
using IEBooster to get a total on your images, but that had a similar
result. In fact, IE just quit responding altogether.

Gary

southdaytona

2004-09-15, 7:15 pm

Yikes, this is like going to the doctors for a cold and finding out you have
cancer!

Gary, mine loads fine (3-6 seconds) i'm not sure why, however I don't doubt
you load times at all as I am a newbie and now I've got a lot of mistakes. As
far as the body tags, I didn't write any of the html myself i let dreamweaver
write it, so I'm not sure why I have 2 body tags, and I'm not sure why there is
a body tag in my libaray. (To be honest I didn't know iit was there and if I
did, didn't know that it was forbidden) Do you think these are the reason it
loads so slow? Any suggestions on where I should start attacking this
problem(s)?

Thanks for your time, mike.

Gary White

2004-09-15, 11:51 pm

southdaytona wrote:

> Gary, mine loads fine (3-6 seconds) i'm not sure why, however I don't doubt
>you load times at all as I am a newbie and now I've got a lot of mistakes.

I'm still getting the same result, so it's not likely to just be net
congestion. You seem to have a ton of images in the page. That would be
the first place I'd look to try and trim it down.

>As
>far as the body tags, I didn't write any of the html myself i let dreamweaver
>write it, so I'm not sure why I have 2 body tags, and I'm not sure why there is
>a body tag in my libaray. (To be honest I didn't know iit was there and if I
>did, didn't know that it was forbidden) Do you think these are the reason it
>loads so slow? Any suggestions on where I should start attacking this
>problem(s)?

Your navbar.lbi Library item contains a bunch of JavaScript that should
be in the <head> of a document and also contains a <body> tag. I'm
guessing that you created the Library item incorrectly. Try the help
topic "Creating a library item" for the correct procedure. I doubt that
this has anything to do with the page load speed, but it could be
affecting the spacing problem you mentioned.

Gary

southdaytona

2004-09-16, 10:25 am

Hey Gary, I'll look into that.

Thanks again for your time.

mike.

Gary White

2004-09-16, 10:25 am

southdaytona wrote:

>Hey Gary, I'll look into that.
>
>Thanks again for your time.

You're welcome. Good luck.

Gary

Gary White

2004-09-23, 12:16 pm

southdaytona wrote:

> When you get a chance check out the site now. I created a new nav bar using
>css only. No more roll over image swaps. See what your load time is.
>Hopefully its improved. http://www.southdaytona.org

I see little difference and I *don't* see where all the weight is. You
still have 44 images being preloaded, but those don't even begin until
after the interminable wait before the page is displayed. There is
something definitely wrong there.

Gary