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David B

2004-08-22, 4:15 am

I'm closing down Site A and replacing it with a revised version, Site B.
Of course, I'll link all the pages from Site A to the revised pages on
Site B. I also want to add the Robots: Noindex metatag to Site A so
search engines will purge it about the same time they spider Site B.

However, it would be kind of nice to register the LINKS from Site A to
Site B. This site has hundreds of pages - maybe over 1,000 - so it could
give Site B a boost if Google shows that there are lots of links to it.

If I use the noindex function, will that also kill all search engines to
links? If so, is there an alternative that will allow search engines to
recognize the inter-site links while preventing them from spidering the
pages themselves?

Thanks.

Dan Vendel *GOF*

2004-08-22, 7:14 am

David B wrote:
> I'm closing down Site A and replacing it with a revised version, Site B.
> Of course, I'll link all the pages from Site A to the revised pages on
> Site B. I also want to add the Robots: Noindex metatag to Site A so
> search engines will purge it about the same time they spider Site B.
>
> However, it would be kind of nice to register the LINKS from Site A to
> Site B. This site has hundreds of pages - maybe over 1,000 - so it could
> give Site B a boost if Google shows that there are lots of links to it.
>
> If I use the noindex function, will that also kill all search engines to
> links? If so, is there an alternative that will allow search engines to
> recognize the inter-site links while preventing them from spidering the
> pages themselves?
>
> Thanks.

It would be nice to both eat the cake and keep it, as the proverb goes,
right?
No, either you allow SEs to index a site and grab the links, or you don't.

BTW: Even if you have 1.000 links from site A to site B, the SEs won't
count them as that many or of the same significance since they're coming
from the same domain. Had they been from 1.000 other, different sites,
they would have carried quite some weight in Google's logarithm.

Even if you place a noindex meta tag (or in a robots.txt file), they
won't "purge" the site A within quite some time, maybe even a year or
more. If site B is substituting site A, it might be a good idea to
remove site A's pages entirely and place a custom made 404 (page not
found) in their place which has a re-direct meta tag (that'll
automatically open site B within 5-10 seconds) and some explanation plus
a link to site B. Such arrangement ought to be faster implemented than
adding lots of links in all pages of site A pointing to site B...

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David B

2004-08-22, 7:14 am

Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:

> David B wrote:
>
>
>
> It would be nice to both eat the cake and keep it, as the proverb goes,
> right?
> No, either you allow SEs to index a site and grab the links, or you don't.
>
> BTW: Even if you have 1.000 links from site A to site B, the SEs won't
> count them as that many or of the same significance since they're coming
> from the same domain. Had they been from 1.000 other, different sites,
> they would have carried quite some weight in Google's logarithm.
>
> Even if you place a noindex meta tag (or in a robots.txt file), they
> won't "purge" the site A within quite some time, maybe even a year or
> more. If site B is substituting site A, it might be a good idea to
> remove site A's pages entirely and place a custom made 404 (page not
> found) in their place which has a re-direct meta tag (that'll
> automatically open site B within 5-10 seconds) and some explanation plus
> a link to site B. Such arrangement ought to be faster implemented than
> adding lots of links in all pages of site A pointing to site B...

OK, thanks for the tips. The pages on this site will actually be
redirected to about a dozen new sites, but I can probably list all of
them on a 404 page. It will sure be nice to be finished with this turkey!

David B

2004-08-22, 7:14 am

Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:

> David B wrote:
>
>
>
> It would be nice to both eat the cake and keep it, as the proverb goes,
> right?
> No, either you allow SEs to index a site and grab the links, or you don't.
>
> BTW: Even if you have 1.000 links from site A to site B, the SEs won't
> count them as that many or of the same significance since they're coming
> from the same domain. Had they been from 1.000 other, different sites,
> they would have carried quite some weight in Google's logarithm.
>
> Even if you place a noindex meta tag (or in a robots.txt file), they
> won't "purge" the site A within quite some time, maybe even a year or
> more. If site B is substituting site A, it might be a good idea to
> remove site A's pages entirely and place a custom made 404 (page not
> found) in their place which has a re-direct meta tag (that'll
> automatically open site B within 5-10 seconds) and some explanation plus
> a link to site B. Such arrangement ought to be faster implemented than
> adding lots of links in all pages of site A pointing to site B...
>

OK, thanks for the tips. The pages on this site will actually be
redirected to about a dozen new sites, but I can probably list all of
them on a 404 page. It will sure be nice to be finished with this turkey!

Gerry W - for email use my name at dergal dot com

2004-08-22, 12:14 pm

Dan Vendel *GOF* wrote:

> David B wrote:
>
> It would be nice to both eat the cake and keep it, as the proverb goes,
> right?
> No, either you allow SEs to index a site and grab the links, or you don't.
>
> BTW: Even if you have 1.000 links from site A to site B, the SEs won't
> count them as that many or of the same significance since they're coming
> from the same domain. Had they been from 1.000 other, different sites,
> they would have carried quite some weight in Google's logarithm.
>
> Even if you place a noindex meta tag (or in a robots.txt file), they
> won't "purge" the site A within quite some time, maybe even a year or
> more. If site B is substituting site A, it might be a good idea to
> remove site A's pages entirely and place a custom made 404 (page not
> found) in their place which has a re-direct meta tag (that'll
> automatically open site B within 5-10 seconds) and some explanation plus
> a link to site B. Such arrangement ought to be faster implemented than
> adding lots of links in all pages of site A pointing to site B...

erm Cake and eat solution:

NoIndex but follow!!!

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=884448

However see this ... http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum12/1250.htm

Only half a cake!