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Digital Prophets

2004-06-10, 4:15 am

Hi all,

Could anyone please tell me how to remove the scroll bar completely using dreamweaver mx? something like http://www.greyglobalgroup.com/?greyhome=true

thank you.
chrisallen76

2004-06-10, 7:14 am

i dont think you can remeove them.

just make sure your pages dont exeed the height of the browser window, but
this is hard to acheive as everyone has different sized monitors/browser
windoes.

if you minimize the browser window of the website
http://www.greyglobalgroup.com/?greyhome=true then you will see scroll bars.

chris allen

Digital Prophets

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

thank you Cris for your suggestion. however, if you notice the top frame of the
website, it has no scroll at all in a 1024x768 res. as far as I know its
impossible to achieve that in dreamweaver mx. and thats precisely my question
as to how it is done. Once again thank you for the reply

chrisallen76

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

sorry my mistake

to acheive this you need to use frames. the top frame is displayed throughout the website and the other pages displayed underneath.

i hopee this time i have been more helpful
Dan Vendel *GOF*

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

Digital Prophets wrote:

> thank you Cris for your suggestion. however, if you notice the top frame of the
> website, it has no scroll at all in a 1024x768 res. as far as I know its
> impossible to achieve that in dreamweaver mx. and thats precisely my question
> as to how it is done. Once again thank you for the reply
>


Which scrollbar? In which frame? Horizontal one or the default vertical
ones?

Regular vertical ones pops out when content requires.
I'm using Firefox on Windows right now, but my guess is that you see
horizontal scrolls in IE on Win?
If so, IE does this when you have a correct doctype definition. Try
removing the DTD in the framed pages (not in the frameset itself). This
will perhaps help, but OTH, that site won't validate if that's vital.
However, you have really made things difficult since you have a nested
frameset in the parent frameset. If you can remove the doctype in the
nested frameset page (index.html), I dunno. Try.

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Digital Prophets

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

Thanks everyone. I will try your suggestions.
Murray *TMM*

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

What about the poor schlub that needs scrollbars?

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> Thanks everyone. I will try your suggestions.



none

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

Some web designers think they have to CONTROL everything about a visitors
experience...
Thank god book publishers don't have the same attitudes otherwise we'd have
books that had pages that stuck together so you couldn't turn them until you
finished reading every word on a page!


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> What about the poor schlub that needs scrollbars?
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Murray *TMM*

2004-06-10, 12:14 pm

Xref: kermit macromedia.dreamweaver:914500

My point exactly. Controlling scrollbars is a slippery slope....

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"none" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> Some web designers think they have to CONTROL everything about a visitors
> experience...
> Thank god book publishers don't have the same attitudes otherwise we'd

have
> books that had pages that stuck together so you couldn't turn them until

you
> finished reading every word on a page!
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:ca9nkb$k0l$1@forums.macromedia.com...
GET[color=darkred]
>
>



Michael Fesser

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

.oO(Digital Prophets)

>thank you Cris for your suggestion. however, if you notice the top frame of the
>website, it has no scroll at all in a 1024x768 res.


And not all content visible in smaller windows, making the site
unusable.

Micha
Mad Dog

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

Not a good analogy, since book publishers DO control what you see. They
decide on the paper, the font, the type size, the spacing...everything. Show
me a book where you can enlarge the type and make the page a different size.
This is exactly why people try to control a Web site's appearance -- print
appears exactly as the designer intended, and that's what people (especially
designers) are used to.

MD


none wrote:[color=darkred]
> Some web designers think they have to CONTROL everything about a
> visitors experience...
> Thank god book publishers don't have the same attitudes otherwise
> we'd have books that had pages that stuck together so you couldn't
> turn them until you finished reading every word on a page!
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:ca9nkb$k0l$1@forums.macromedia.com...


Michael Fesser

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

.oO(Mad Dog)

>Not a good analogy, since book publishers DO control what you see. They
>decide on the paper, the font, the type size, the spacing...everything. Show
>me a book where you can enlarge the type and make the page a different size.
>This is exactly why people try to control a Web site's appearance -- print
>appears exactly as the designer intended, and that's what people (especially
>designers) are used to.


"This paper is optimized for a 1m x 2m desk made of spruce wood and a
80W light source."

Micha
Murray *TMM*

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

.... and should only be viewed using horn-rimmed glasses (tortoise-shell
preferred).

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"Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> .oO(Mad Dog)
>
Show[color=darkred]
size.[color=darkred]
print[color=darkred]
(especially[color=darkred]
>
> "This paper is optimized for a 1m x 2m desk made of spruce wood and a
> 80W light source."
>
> Micha



Mad Dog

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

Shhhhhhhh.....I'm trying to read. I hate when these books come with built-in
music that plays when I open the cover.

Murray *TMM* wrote:[color=darkred]
> ... and should only be viewed using horn-rimmed glasses
> (tortoise-shell preferred).
>
>
> "Michael Fesser" <netizen@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:ih6hc0p2al91mb63olervkooh8e8nu1hs7@4ax.com...


Michael Fesser

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

.oO(Mad Dog)

>Shhhhhhhh.....I'm trying to read. I hate when these books come with built-in
>music that plays when I open the cover.


"Before continue reading please have a look at our sponsor's books ..."

Micha
Murray *TMM*

2004-06-10, 7:14 pm

8)

And those damn scrollbars....

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"Mad Dog" <md@mdp.com> wrote in message
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> Shhhhhhhh.....I'm trying to read. I hate when these books come with

built-in
> music that plays when I open the cover.
>
> Murray *TMM* wrote:
>
>



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