Dreamweaver - site not working in Mac OS 9 / IE 5

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site not working in Mac OS 9 / IE 5

Julz

2004-04-21, 10:31 pm

I've a site that reportedly causes IE 5 on Mac OS 9 to crash. Any
confirmation of this and - better still - suggested fixes would be *very*
much appreciated.

www.dailyinfo.co.uk

many thanks.

Julz

[And yes, it does use JavaScript menus (not FW/DW). They seemed an
unavoidable choice given the requirements of, amongst other things, 1-click
access to all sections of a seriously diverse site spread across three
servers. And no, the site's not as I would have designed it from scratch - I
was keeping as much as possible of the old design.]

Alan

2004-04-21, 10:31 pm

> www.dailyinfo.co.uk

os9.2/IE5.1

didn't crash.
sluggish menu system.

simply toooo many choices and flyouts in my opinion.

I'd more likely suspect the funky image rotator script, the images are all
different sizes, kept jerking the page around and making it redraw to fit
the content around the different sized images.

note- I did NOT touch ANYTHING until everything including all the rotated ad
images loaded. Suspect that maybe mousing over the menu when the ad rotator
is redrawing page layout would be iffy.

Alan

2004-04-21, 10:31 pm

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> os9.2/IE5.1

just to add, on a different page-

http://dailyinfo.afa.co.uk/unified_adboard.php?col=fb

menu worked easier, however the JavaScript Google ad below it blows a hole
thru it, the ad table shows thru and over the menu system.

nevermind- crashed browser. Page had been loaded for several minutes.

I was investigating the menu response, and noticed that the flyout for the
main item that i was on BEFORE was what was now showing, no matter how long
i was on the current thing. Couldn't get menu for current item to show, had
to move to some OTHER menu choice to see menu for last main item. In
otherwords, had to sneak up sideways and stare at it crosseyed to read it...

then moved mouse to a couple items quickly- kapow.

no biggee, i'm a ludite who keeps JavaScript off so i'm not bothered by
those things.

Julz

2004-04-21, 10:31 pm

Dear Alan,

Thanks for the reply.

That funky image rotator... Sadly I can't touch that (I don't think I
wouldn't love to remove it!). Depending on what's in the admin system there
could be many dozen images being cycled through. To my knowledge the browser
just continuously cycles through, loading and re-loading images, etc.

Tell me, how does the site appear on a page *without* the rotating adverts
(in their inglorious multitude of sizes)? Are the menus still sluggish?

e.g. http://www.dailyinfo.co.uk/guide/index.html (and there are another
1,286 static pages...)

or e.g. http://dailyinfo.afa.co.uk/unified_adboard.php?col=rtl

As for choices on the menus... as it is I've cut down the choice of main
categories from 14 to 10. Under the constraints placed on me I don't think
there's anything more that can be done. But your point is well taken!

Thanks,

Julz

"Alan" <dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:BCAC507D.187108%dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com...
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>
>
> os9.2/IE5.1
>
> didn't crash.
> sluggish menu system.
>
> simply toooo many choices and flyouts in my opinion.
>
> I'd more likely suspect the funky image rotator script, the images are all
> different sizes, kept jerking the page around and making it redraw to fit
> the content around the different sized images.
>
> note- I did NOT touch ANYTHING until everything including all the rotated
ad
> images loaded. Suspect that maybe mousing over the menu when the ad
rotator
> is redrawing page layout would be iffy.
>

Julz

2004-04-21, 10:31 pm

Thanks Alan,

The upshot is that the page doesn't work properly on OS9/IE. I'd like to
place the code that loads the menus at the bottom of the page, not the top -
but since a few pages are 200-300K long (don't ask) that's not an ideal
solution. I may yet go back to DHTML layers despite the overload they cause.

If anyone out there can point me to something I could do that would
ameliorate these problems on OS9/IE, do let me know!

However, if anyone has any suggestions for a different decent multi-level
javascript menu system I'd *love* to hear them.

Thanks,

J

"Alan" <dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:BCAC525E.187111%dont_mail_me_period@macromedia.com...
>
>
>
> just to add, on a different page-
>
> http://dailyinfo.afa.co.uk/unified_adboard.php?col=fb
>
> menu worked easier, however the JavaScript Google ad below it blows a hole
> thru it, the ad table shows thru and over the menu system.
>
> nevermind- crashed browser. Page had been loaded for several minutes.
>
> I was investigating the menu response, and noticed that the flyout for the
> main item that i was on BEFORE was what was now showing, no matter how
long
> i was on the current thing. Couldn't get menu for current item to show,
had
> to move to some OTHER menu choice to see menu for last main item. In
> otherwords, had to sneak up sideways and stare at it crosseyed to read
it...
>
> then moved mouse to a couple items quickly- kapow.
>
> no biggee, i'm a ludite who keeps JavaScript off so i'm not bothered by
> those things.
>
>
>

Alan

2004-04-21, 10:31 pm

> If anyone out there can point me to something I could do that would
> ameliorate these problems on OS9/IE, do let me know!

I'm not a Js person- but as a pure guess from the way it happened- probably
a memory issue (especially if there are pages that are two or three hundred
k)

My browser is manually set to use up to 50 megs of memory, the stock install
of ie5 on classic is around 12 megs perhaps. So ~if~ there is some memory
leak or creeping consumption with that menu system, it meant i was able to
use the page longer before it finally ran out of resources and winked out.

there's a browser sniffer on the page already as part of the menu. Don't
know if it's possible, but if you can differentiate between mac/ie5.1 and
mac/ie5.2 (which is osX only), or tell someway if they are classic or osX,
use the sniffer to load a <noscript> menu of plain links, if they can get
around from just clicking the main menu items.