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Re: Mac OS X Dreamweaver MX Speed
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| Dano Montana webforumsuser@macromedia.com 2004-01-07, 9:28 pm |
| I concur with your post. I also have a 867 mac running OSX 10.3 and also a dual 1.25 running OSX 10.3 and Dreamweaver
Runs painfully slow on both of them. To the point where is it becoming a real pain to work in Dreamweaver.
I love the new program and the new CSS but if I can't work in it without this huge lag time then I might have to look to another app.
Dan
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| Bukk webforumsuser@macromedia.com 2004-01-07, 11:29 pm |
| I have long ago given up on MX 2004. It's so slow it's painful. People thought v6 and 6.1 were slow, but that's what I use.
I'm really glad I paid for this upgrade. Because I love paying for software that's unusuable.
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| Interloper webforumsuser@macromedia.com 2004-01-08, 7:31 pm |
| I too feel that I paid for software that is unusable. I didn't even try the trial - heck I trusted MM to produce better software so I signed up to be notified the second it was released and I bought it straight away. I'm the fool for being such a loyal cu
stomer.
If I'd tried the demo I never would have bought it. I thought about returning it, but I figured there would be an update within a month or so....again, I'm the fool.
I have followed all these threads since last year and nothing helps on my G4/700 with 1 Gig of RAM running 10.3.2
It takes forever to open
It renders pages too slowly, even if they don't have a lot of graphics in them
Logging on to a remote server and refreshing the files is slower than it was in 6.1. It chugs through all the remote folders, and it doesn't make a difference which remote server I am using.
Typing/Copying/Pasting is so slow it is unusable.
I have given up on MX 2004 and gone back to 6.1.
Does anyone see the irony that it is now 2004 and mac users still don't have an update for MX 2004?
I keep checking VersionTracker.com every morning in the hope that there has been an update that will fix this unusable piece of bloatware that has NOT lived up to my expectations.
Until this version I was a very loyal MM fan. Dreamweaver is the tool I use all day every day on my mac, so I was a loyal customer who couldn't wait to get the next release. Now I can't wait to get an update so the darn thing WORKS!!
I have filled out many reports and surveys and still no update for Mac users. Are we really such a small portion of the purchasing population that we just don't matter enough to warrant an update?
I can't understand how the appalling performance on the mac under normal working conditions (reported by so many Mac users both here and elsewhere) missed the Quality Control people. Either not much was done for the Mac, or it was done badly, or we just d
on't matter to MM anymore.
Anyone using a mac for web production could not have missed these problems when they were beta testing this software for more than 5 minutes.
I'm very sad that I have this expensive piece of software, that obviously has cool new features, that I cannot use on a day-to-day basis.
Oh one more thing. I have seen MX 2004 running on a colleague's Windows machine and I was even more upset - because it was fast and stable and worked brilliantly!! This made me think even more that we Mac users don't matter otherwise we would have seen an
update by now. When I see the demo running on some of my Mac user colleagues who only have a G4 450 and 512MB of RAM it is useless and I completely understand why they wouldn't buy it.
I have also seen it running on a G5 with 2 gig of RAM and it performs as slowly and as badly as it does on my G4.
:-(
Oh well, I foolishly hope each day that I will see an update that makes me breathe a sigh of relief as I find that all the speed problems have been fixed and I can use it on a day-to-day basis instead of having to use 6.1
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| slaider76 webforumsuser@macromedia.com 2004-01-08, 8:30 pm |
| Screw MM.
I also waste my time checking Versiontracker for a fix to this pathetic program...they've updated a couple 2004 apps but not DW...I guess it's so f*cked up that nobody knows how to fix it.
I hope this company tanks. They should be ashamed of themselves. How do they sleep at night knowing they peddle garbage like this??????
Just pitiful...
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| Many of us are finding that we can't trust MM any more for quality...
definately do the trial in the future... I know I will... been burned too
many times by MM.
"Interloper" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
news:btkp4u$aeg$1@forums.macromedia.com...quote:
> I too feel that I paid for software that is unusable. I didn't even try
the trial - heck I trusted MM to produce better software so I signed up to
be notified the second it was released and I bought it straight away. I'm
the fool for being such a loyal customer.
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| John Dowdell 2004-01-09, 10:28 pm |
| Recap:
-- Definitely try before you buy.
-- You should expect normal performance; some people, though,
definitely do not have normal performance.
-- Emerging Issues technote describes some known ways to get
slower-than-normal performance, and how to remove those differences.
-- Emerging Issues technote also describes that there's a maintainence
release coming, which addresses *addressable* problems which the team
has managed to collect.
-- Your situation may or may not fall into (a) what others have seen;
or (b) what is possible to change in application code alone.
-- Flaming is more effective when attached to a real name and
reputation, rather than when done anonymously.
jd
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| slaider76 webforumsuser@macromedia.com 2004-01-12, 1:30 pm |
| I stand by my words.
2004 is a POS on every Mac I've had it on, both in 10.2.8 and 10.3
MM support for the DW on the Mac is at an all time low.
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Scott Slater
SMARTŪ Exhibits
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| KMB WebMaster 2004-02-07, 4:28 pm |
| Macromedia obviously hired the Microsoft team of programmers who gave us Word 6
for Mac, in the last century. Or perhaps I'm not being fair to Microsoft in
that comparison--Word 6 was actually a little more efficient than DW MX 2004.
On a G5 1.8GHz with 1.5 GB of RAM DW MX 2004 is still intolerable. It runs at
least 4-5x faster on a P-IV 1.6 GHz with 1/3 the RAM. I have both in my office.
This is an atrocity and an historical low in Macromedia's Mac support. Save
your money and send Macromedia a message--avoid DW MX 2004 for OS X at all
cost! To regain my respect, they will have to offer the next version for free
AND raise its speed performance about 1000%
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| KMB WebMaster 2004-02-07, 4:29 pm |
| Macromedia obviously hired the Microsoft team of programmers who gave us Word 6
for Mac, in the last century. Or perhaps I'm not being fair to Microsoft in
that comparison--Word 6 was actually a little more efficient than DW MX 2004.
On a G5 1.8GHz with 1.5 GB of RAM DW MX 2004 is still intolerable. It runs at
least 4-5x faster on a P-IV 1.6 GHz with 1/3 the RAM. I have both in my office.
This is an atrocity and an historical low in Macromedia's Mac support. Save
your money and send Macromedia a message--avoid DW MX 2004 for OS X at all
cost! To regain my respect, they will have to offer the next version for free
AND raise its speed performance about 1000%
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| KMB WebMaster 2004-02-07, 4:29 pm |
| Sorry for the double post. The first one generated a Coldfusion error, but apparently it worked anyway.
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| Mick White 2004-02-07, 5:29 pm |
| FWIW, I have no performance problems with MX 2004, OSX 10.2.8, G4
850MHz, 512 MB ram, single processor.
Mick
KMB WebMaster wrote:
> Macromedia obviously hired the Microsoft team of programmers who gave us Word 6
> for Mac, in the last century. Or perhaps I'm not being fair to Microsoft in
> that comparison--Word 6 was actually a little more efficient than DW MX 2004.
>
> On a G5 1.8GHz with 1.5 GB of RAM DW MX 2004 is still intolerable. It runs at
> least 4-5x faster on a P-IV 1.6 GHz with 1/3 the RAM. I have both in my office.
>
> This is an atrocity and an historical low in Macromedia's Mac support. Save
> your money and send Macromedia a message--avoid DW MX 2004 for OS X at all
> cost! To regain my respect, they will have to offer the next version for free
> AND raise its speed performance about 1000%
>
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| Al Sparber- PVII 2004-02-07, 5:29 pm |
| Mick White wrote:
> FWIW, I have no performance problems with MX 2004, OSX 10.2.8, G4
> 850MHz, 512 MB ram, single processor.
> Mick
I don't have serious problems on a 1.25ghz G4 1GB RAM -
but...............
1. Studio MX is the extent of my installed Apps
2. I have relatively few extensions installed
3. But both my XP machines are several orders of magnitude faster
It takes approx. 12-15 seconds from the time I click the DW icon on the
Dock to fully load DW (sans startup screen). It takes less than 5
seconds to start in XP.
All DW tasks on the Mac are slower than the PC. To be honest, if it were
my only machine I'd be a bit unhappy.
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| KMB WebMaster 2004-02-08, 3:28 am |
| I should clarify that we use DW and Contribute to manage fairly large sites
consisting of several hundred pages or more. That may be pushing DW's limits in
general, but it's workable on a PC, and it was at least workable on a Mac with
past versions. Perhaps DW 2004 is faster on a G4, though that makes little
sense to me. We'll try it at some point. We've tried it on G5s running 10.2.8,
10.3, 10.3.1 and 10.3.2. We've also completely wiped the systems and run with
nothing but a clean install of 10.3.2 and DW 2004. No differences worth noting
Editing a few pages or adjusting some tags here and there is about all it's
good for in our environment. Try changing a library file across a 400 page site
or applying a complicated template to a page containing long forms. Try
checking out 150 pages at once or just scrolling through a long page in split
screen view. It simply isn't up to the task of high volume, professional web
development anymore
I usually don't rant, but I stand by my opinion that 2004 is an inexcusable
effort on the part of MM. We really want to like it, and our problems do not
stem from its feature set. It does everything we need, only we'd need to bill
our clients $500/hour to offset its inefficiency. I realize the whole Studio
suite is generally slower on Mac OS than Windows. This is different. It's just
not usable now
MM can and must do better. They have not optimized this version for OS X.
Again, it reminds me of that horrible Windows to Mac port MS did with Word 6
about 10 years ago. Perhaps part of the problem lies with Apple? I don't know.
Whatever the cause, if the problem is not remedied in the near future DW will
not last on OS X, and that is sad
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| honda250 2004-02-08, 3:28 am |
| I use a G4 1GHz dual with Studio MX and have never had the speed issues discussed using 10.2 and 10.3.
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| honda250 2004-02-08, 3:28 am |
| I use a G4 1GHz dual with Studio MX and have never had the speed issues discussed using 10.2 and 10.3.
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| honda250 2004-02-08, 3:28 am |
| I use a G4 1GHz dual with Studio MX and have never had the speed issues discussed using 10.2 and 10.3.
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| spiralkk 2004-03-09, 3:29 pm |
| I am using an eMac G4 700MHz with 1GIG memory. DW MX 2004 is painfully slow. I
came here hoping to get some concrete suggestions to speed things up. Does
anyone have ideas? Thank you.
~Katherine Kirk
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| spiralkk 2004-03-09, 3:30 pm |
| I am using an eMac G4 700MHz with 1GIG memory. DW MX 2004 is painfully slow. I
came here hoping to get some concrete suggestions to speed things up. Does
anyone have ideas? Thank you.
~Katherine Kirk
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| Murray *TMM* 2004-03-09, 3:30 pm |
| Katherine:
Sadly, if you are experiencing slowness with it on your box, there is very
little you can do *right now* other than to make sure that there are no
other apps competing for processor cycles (like Antivirus realtime
protection scans).
Macromedia has posted here several times that they are preparing an updater
that will be made available very soon. We have no idea what very soon
means, but I suspect it is ... umm ... very soon.
--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"spiralkk" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> I am using an eMac G4 700MHz with 1GIG memory. DW MX 2004 is painfully
slow. I
> came here hoping to get some concrete suggestions to speed things up. Does
> anyone have ideas? Thank you.
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> ~Katherine Kirk
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