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| [L=Please look at]http://www24.brinkster.com/vmail2/Monopoly/home.html[/L
The page is not complete yet, I am trying to get the monopoly board to fill
something like 75% of the window, and automatically change size when the user
resize the browse
its easy if i could use table - but tables should only be used for tabular
data and not layout
I am also not allowed to use javascript, frames or flas
I dont understand why the page looks different in IE5.5 and IE 6, i will look
into it late
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| Murray *TMM* 2004-02-18, 5:28 pm |
| > its easy if i could use table - but tables should only be used for
tabular
> data and not layout
> I am also not allowed to use javascript, frames or flas
Don't believe either of the assumptions in this paragraph.
* it's not easy if you use tables, and
* you can use tables for anything you damn well please
A background image does NOT scale in size. In general images of any sort do
not scale well.
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"vmail" <sales@vmail.tk> wrote in message
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> [L=Please look at]http://www24.brinkster.com/vmail2/Monopoly/home.html[/L
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> The page is not complete yet, I am trying to get the monopoly board to
fill
> something like 75% of the window, and automatically change size when the
user
> resize the browse
>
> its easy if i could use table - but tables should only be used for
tabular
> data and not layout
> I am also not allowed to use javascript, frames or flas
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> I dont understand why the page looks different in IE5.5 and IE 6, i will
look
> into it late
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| Barry Pearson 2004-02-18, 6:44 pm |
| vmail wrote:
[snip]
> its easy if i could use table - but tables should only be used for
> tabular data and not layout
[snip]
Murray has responded to this. I'll just supplement what he has so accurately
and succinctly said ("you can use tables for anything you damn well please"):
"Layout tables considered valuable"
http://www.barry.pearson.name/articles/layout_tables/
There are 5 articles there. The others are:
"Reflections on CSS Positioning"
"In defence of layout tables"
"A brief history of tables"
"Sayings"
You potentially have a number of layout methods available. Normal flow,
floats, absolute positioning, tables. (And Frames, iFrames, Objects, and
various combinations of these).
They are *all* limited. Would you rather have 3 or 4 different limited methods
available, or just 2 or 3 of them? And don't believe for a second anyone who
is trying to re-write history by making claims about what tables should be
used for! See "A brief history of tables" above.
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| its cos of accessability and useability
is is posible to manually create the boxes that can resize when the window resizes, like style={top:15%; left:15%; width:15%; height:15%;}
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| Murray *TMM* 2004-02-18, 6:44 pm |
| Tables used creatively needn't be an impediment to accessability, or
useability, but it sounds like you have another agenda that has been
unspoken here, so I cannot guess what that might be.
Yes you can create such boxes. Don't expect them to cause your background
to scale however.
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"vmail" <sales@vmail.tk> wrote in message
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> its cos of accessability and useability
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> is is posible to manually create the boxes that can resize when the window
resizes, like style={top:15%; left:15%; width:15%; height:15%;}
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| I agree with you, I have used tables in the past, if i use a table that isnt
for tabular data I will get a grade F
[L=Tableless Layouts]http://webdesign.about.com/library/weekly/aa102102a.htm[/L
[Q]CSS Positioning (CSS-P) is the only way to create standards based Web pages
using XHTML. Why? Because XHTML requires that tables only be used to define
tabular data, and not be used for layout. [/Q
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| Murray *TMM* 2004-02-18, 6:45 pm |
| Aha - so this is for classwork then?
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"vmail" <sales@vmail.tk> wrote in message
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> I agree with you, I have used tables in the past, if i use a table that
isnt
> for tabular data I will get a grade F
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> [L=Tableless
Layouts]http://webdesign.about.com/library/weekly/aa102102a.htm[/L
>
> [Q]CSS Positioning (CSS-P) is the only way to create standards based Web
pages
> using XHTML. Why? Because XHTML requires that tables only be used to
define
> tabular data, and not be used for layout. [/Q
>
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| Paul Anthony 2004-02-18, 6:45 pm |
| Lets say for a minute that you decide to not use a background image and
instead use multiple layers around the outside of the board for the coloured
effect -sounds adventurous but maybe its possible with the right blend of
javascript etc. That would then leave the only image being the centered one
for the background.
Paul.
"vmail" <sales@vmail.tk> wrote in message
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> [L=Please look at]http://www24.brinkster.com/vmail2/Monopoly/home.html[/L
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> The page is not complete yet, I am trying to get the monopoly board to
fill
> something like 75% of the window, and automatically change size when the
user
> resize the browse
>
> its easy if i could use table - but tables should only be used for
tabular
> data and not layout
> I am also not allowed to use javascript, frames or flas
>
>
> I dont understand why the page looks different in IE5.5 and IE 6, i will
look
> into it late
>
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| thats what im working on now, but without the javascript, just using CSS
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| ok, just testing with one bo
<div class="boardCorner" style="{position: absolute; left:30%; top:20%;
height:30%; width:30%}"> test</div
the colours and borders are defined in .boardCorner, eveything works except
the height of the box does not chang
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| ok if you have a 2 colum table, a speech browser will read col1,row1, then col2, row1 instead of reading col1,row2
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