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Slippyaah

2004-02-12, 5:33 pm

just wandered if anyone else is having the same problem as me and if there
is a way around it?

I'm using Dreamweaver MX 2004 and I'm trying to create pages from templates.
The template is in it's own directory "templates/page.dwt" and each section
of the site is in it's own directory. The path for the images and style
sheet on the template page are "../images/etc" and in a test on the server
this shows up fine. However, as soon as I create a page from this template
the links to the images and style sheet change to "/images/etc" and with
these areas being uneditable I'm not even able to change them by hand. (Not
that changing each any every image and style by hand on each page would be
efficient!)

Is this a bug with dreamweaver MX 2004 or is there something I'm missing?
How do I change it so that I can create pages from the template without
having this very annoying problem??

Thanks in advance

Slippy


Murray *TMM*

2004-02-12, 6:29 pm

Your problem is that you have your links set to ROOT rather than DOCUMENT
relative. Here's something to read -

http://www.macromedia.com/support/d...te_root_rel.htm

And if you want to change them all, go here -

Get and install this extension:
relativity from Jason Delgarno

http://e7x.com/dw/

It has a dialog box and help files and it will change a single page, folder,
or sitewide from one method to the other.


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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0gr5r$9bv$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> just wandered if anyone else is having the same problem as me and if there
> is a way around it?
>
> I'm using Dreamweaver MX 2004 and I'm trying to create pages from

templates.
> The template is in it's own directory "templates/page.dwt" and each

section
> of the site is in it's own directory. The path for the images and style
> sheet on the template page are "../images/etc" and in a test on the server
> this shows up fine. However, as soon as I create a page from this

template
> the links to the images and style sheet change to "/images/etc" and with
> these areas being uneditable I'm not even able to change them by hand.

(Not
> that changing each any every image and style by hand on each page would be
> efficient!)
>
> Is this a bug with dreamweaver MX 2004 or is there something I'm missing?
> How do I change it so that I can create pages from the template without
> having this very annoying problem??
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Slippy
>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-12, 6:29 pm

Murray,

Cheers for the help. As far as I know my links are set to ROOT rather than
DOCUMENT. Within the site manager the root is:

C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\webdev\Circa\site\

and the graphics folder is in:

C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\webdev\Circa\site\graphics

the template folder is in:

C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\webdev\Circa\site\templates

images within the template page are linked as: "../graphics/etc" in the
template folder which should work when new pages are created from them which
are also in sub directories but for some reason the actual path of the
images within the template change when I create a new page from it to
"/graphics/etc". (?)

Does the extension you suggest change links even though they are in
uneditable regions?

Slippy


"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:c0grog$a4r$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Your problem is that you have your links set to ROOT rather than DOCUMENT
> relative. Here's something to read -
>
>

http://www.macromedia.com/support/d...te_root_rel.htm
>
> And if you want to change them all, go here -
>
> Get and install this extension:
> relativity from Jason Delgarno
>
> http://e7x.com/dw/
>
> It has a dialog box and help files and it will change a single page,

folder,
> or sitewide from one method to the other.
>
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver - THE BEST WAY TO GET
> ANSWERS
> ==================
> http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
> ==================
>
> "Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c0gr5r$9bv$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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Murray *TMM*

2004-02-12, 6:29 pm

> "/graphics/etc".

This is a root relative link.

Assuming that the root of your site indeed contains this "graphics" folder,
the link will not work if you browse directly to the file. It will not work
if you are previewing from DW and are *not* using temp files to preview. It
will work if you preview the page from DW and *are* using temp files, or if
you upload the file to your website.

You are getting root relative links when you spawn child pages from your
template because at some point you changed the default setting on the
"browse to" panel from Relative To: Document, to Relative To: Root. The
solution would be to remake all of the links IN THE TEMPLATE PAGE, and make
sure that they are all document relative.

I believe that the relativity thing will adjust the child pages for you as
you want, but I have not used it so I can't say for sure. My method will do
this as well since the changes will propagate from Template to child.

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
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ANSWERS
==================
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http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================

"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0gse9$b5o$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Murray,
>
> Cheers for the help. As far as I know my links are set to ROOT rather

than
> DOCUMENT. Within the site manager the root is:
>
> C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\webdev\Circa\site\
>
> and the graphics folder is in:
>
> C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\webdev\Circa\site\graphics
>
> the template folder is in:
>
> C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\webdev\Circa\site\templates
>
> images within the template page are linked as: "../graphics/etc" in the
> template folder which should work when new pages are created from them

which
> are also in sub directories but for some reason the actual path of the
> images within the template change when I create a new page from it to
> "/graphics/etc". (?)
>
> Does the extension you suggest change links even though they are in
> uneditable regions?
>
> Slippy
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:c0grog$a4r$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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>

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Slippyaah

2004-02-12, 6:29 pm

so what would be a root relative link from the template page? At the moment
on the template page the links to graphics are set to:

"../graphics/etc"

because it needs to go out of the current directory, into the root and
access the graphics directory for the image. This would be the same for
other pages each within individual directories so in theory this should
work.

If you suggest the format of what I should change it too then I'll give it a
go and see what happens...

Thanks

Slippy



"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:c0gt6q$c44$1@forums.macromedia.com...
>
> This is a root relative link.
>
> Assuming that the root of your site indeed contains this "graphics"

folder,
> the link will not work if you browse directly to the file. It will not

work
> if you are previewing from DW and are *not* using temp files to preview.

It
> will work if you preview the page from DW and *are* using temp files, or

if
> you upload the file to your website.
>
> You are getting root relative links when you spawn child pages from your
> template because at some point you changed the default setting on the
> "browse to" panel from Relative To: Document, to Relative To: Root. The
> solution would be to remake all of the links IN THE TEMPLATE PAGE, and

make
> sure that they are all document relative.
>
> I believe that the relativity thing will adjust the child pages for you as
> you want, but I have not used it so I can't say for sure. My method will

do
> this as well since the changes will propagate from Template to child.
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver - THE BEST WAY TO GET
> ANSWERS
> ==================
> http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
> ==================
>
> "Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c0gse9$b5o$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> than
> which
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>

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Murray *TMM*

2004-02-12, 7:29 pm

I beg your pardon.

A root relative link in a template page looks just like a root relative link
in any page, so I can understand your confusion.

There was a bug in DW4 and earlier that if a Template page contained a
single root relative link, then all links on all child pages would become
root relative. This sounds very much like that problem, although I am
pretty sure that bug was fixed - now, of course, I am wondering if it has
surfaced again.

Can you show me the code on one of these template pages, please?

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver - THE BEST WAY TO GET
ANSWERS
==================
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http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================

"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0gthr$ci3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> so what would be a root relative link from the template page? At the

moment
> on the template page the links to graphics are set to:
>
> "../graphics/etc"
>
> because it needs to go out of the current directory, into the root and
> access the graphics directory for the image. This would be the same for
> other pages each within individual directories so in theory this should
> work.
>
> If you suggest the format of what I should change it too then I'll give it

a
> go and see what happens...
>
> Thanks
>
> Slippy
>
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:c0gt6q$c44$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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>



Slippyaah

2004-02-12, 7:29 pm

Here's a code snippet from my template page which includes links to
graphics:

<body
onLoad="MM_preloadImages('../graphics/nav/home2.gif','../graphics/nav/news2.
gif','../graphics/nav/band2.gif','../graphics/nav/records2.gif','../graphics
/nav/contact2.gif')">
<table width="750" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td><!-- TemplateBeginEditable name="logo" --><img
src="../graphics/logo.gif" width="200" height="80"><!--
TemplateEndEditable --></td>
<td width="15"> </td>
<td colspan="2" valign="bottom"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable
name="navLinks" --><a href="../home.htm" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('home','','../graphics/nav/home2.gif',1)"><img
src="../graphics/nav/home1.gif" alt="back to front" name="home" width="38"
height="37" border="0"></a><a href="../news/index.php"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('news','','../graphics/nav/news2.gif',1)"><img
src="../graphics/nav/news1.gif" alt="the latest on Circa" name="news"
width="44" height="37" border="0"></a><a href="../band/index.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('band','','../graphics/nav/band2.gif',1)"><img
src="../graphics/nav/band1.gif" alt="about the band" name="band" width="63"
height="37" border="0"></a><a href="../records/index.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('records','','../graphics/nav/records2.gif',1)"><i
mg src="../graphics/nav/records1.gif" alt="buy our music online"
name="records" width="54" height="37" border="0"></a><a
href="../contact.htm" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('contact','','../graphics/nav/contact2.gif',1)"><i
mg src="../graphics/nav/contact1.gif" alt="get in touch" name="contact"
width="58" height="37" border="0"></a><!-- TemplateEndEditable --></td>
<td colspan="3"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="200" rowspan="3" bgcolor="999966"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable
name="image" --><img src="../graphics/sidebar/image01.jpg" width="200"
height="683"><!-- TemplateEndEditable --></td>
<td width="15" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="999966"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable
name="title" --><img src="../graphics/titles/news.gif" width="380"
height="71"><!-- TemplateEndEditable --></td>
<td colspan="3" bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="15" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
<td bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
<td bgcolor="8C8C59"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable name="subTitle" --><img
src="../graphics/subtitles/latest.gif" width="115" height="35"><!--
TemplateEndEditable --></td>
<td bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
</tr>

If you need to see the whole template then let me know and I can send you
the file. Yeah it sure looks like a bug the way it changes when I spawn new
child pages form the template.

Let me know what you think..

Slippy


"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:c0gu5e$dbh$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> I beg your pardon.
>
> A root relative link in a template page looks just like a root relative

link
> in any page, so I can understand your confusion.
>
> There was a bug in DW4 and earlier that if a Template page contained a
> single root relative link, then all links on all child pages would become
> root relative. This sounds very much like that problem, although I am
> pretty sure that bug was fixed - now, of course, I am wondering if it has
> surfaced again.
>
> Can you show me the code on one of these template pages, please?
>
> --
> Murray --- ICQ 71997575
> Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
> (If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
> ==================
> news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver - THE BEST WAY TO GET
> ANSWERS
> ==================
> http://www.dreamweavermx-templates.com - Template Triage!
> http://www.projectseven.com/go - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
> ==================
>
> "Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c0gthr$ci3$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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Murray *TMM*

2004-02-12, 7:29 pm

Slippy:

You don't by any chance have any linked files IN the Templates folder do
you?

Can you spawn a child from this and show me the code there, please?

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Team Macromedia Volunteer for Dreamweaver MX
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
==================
news://forums.macromedia.com/macromedia.dreamweaver - THE BEST WAY TO GET
ANSWERS
==================
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http://www.dwfaq.com - DW FAQs, Tutorials & Resources
http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ - Macromedia (MM) Technotes
==================

"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0gve4$euu$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Here's a code snippet from my template page which includes links to
> graphics:
>
> <body
>

onLoad="MM_preloadImages('../graphics/nav/home2.gif','../graphics/nav/news2.
>

gif','../graphics/nav/band2.gif','../graphics/nav/records2.gif','../graphics
> /nav/contact2.gif')">
> <table width="750" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0"
> cellspacing="0">
> <tr>
> <td><!-- TemplateBeginEditable name="logo" --><img
> src="../graphics/logo.gif" width="200" height="80"><!--
> TemplateEndEditable --></td>
> <td width="15"> </td>
> <td colspan="2" valign="bottom"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable
> name="navLinks" --><a href="../home.htm" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
> onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('home','','../graphics/nav/home2.gif',1)"><img
> src="../graphics/nav/home1.gif" alt="back to front" name="home" width="38"
> height="37" border="0"></a><a href="../news/index.php"
> onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
> onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('news','','../graphics/nav/news2.gif',1)"><img
> src="../graphics/nav/news1.gif" alt="the latest on Circa" name="news"
> width="44" height="37" border="0"></a><a href="../band/index.htm"
> onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
> onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('band','','../graphics/nav/band2.gif',1)"><img
> src="../graphics/nav/band1.gif" alt="about the band" name="band"

width="63"
> height="37" border="0"></a><a href="../records/index.htm"
> onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
>

onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('records','','../graphics/nav/records2.gif',1)"><i
> mg src="../graphics/nav/records1.gif" alt="buy our music online"
> name="records" width="54" height="37" border="0"></a><a
> href="../contact.htm" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
>

onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('contact','','../graphics/nav/contact2.gif',1)"><i
> mg src="../graphics/nav/contact1.gif" alt="get in touch" name="contact"
> width="58" height="37" border="0"></a><!-- TemplateEndEditable --></td>
> <td colspan="3"> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td width="200" rowspan="3" bgcolor="999966"><!--

TemplateBeginEditable
> name="image" --><img src="../graphics/sidebar/image01.jpg" width="200"
> height="683"><!-- TemplateEndEditable --></td>
> <td width="15" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="999966"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable
> name="title" --><img src="../graphics/titles/news.gif" width="380"
> height="71"><!-- TemplateEndEditable --></td>
> <td colspan="3" bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
> </tr>
> <tr>
> <td width="15" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
> <td bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
> <td bgcolor="8C8C59"><!-- TemplateBeginEditable

name="subTitle" --><img
> src="../graphics/subtitles/latest.gif" width="115" height="35"><!--
> TemplateEndEditable --></td>
> <td bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
> </tr>
>
> If you need to see the whole template then let me know and I can send you
> the file. Yeah it sure looks like a bug the way it changes when I spawn

new
> child pages form the template.
>
> Let me know what you think..
>
> Slippy
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:c0gu5e$dbh$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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Slippyaah

2004-02-12, 7:29 pm

no linked files in the actual templates folder - just the template page.

When I have an open template page and go to File/New and then select the
template page from my site, it produces a document relative path. Then when
I save that new file as a new page on my site the links appear as follows:

<body
onLoad="MM_preloadImages('/graphics/nav/home2.gif','/graphics/nav/news2.gif'
,'/graphics/nav/band2.gif','/graphics/nav/records2.gif','/graphics/nav/conta
ct2.gif')">
<table width="750" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td><img src="/graphics/logo.gif" width="200" height="80"></td>
<td width="15"> </td>
<td colspan="2" valign="bottom"><a href="/home.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('home','','/graphics/nav/home2.gif',1)"><img
src="/graphics/nav/home1.gif" alt="back to front" name="home" width="38"
height="37" border="0"></a><a href="/news/index.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('news','','/graphics/nav/news2.gif',1)"><img
src="/graphics/nav/news1.gif" alt="the latest on Circa" name="news"
width="44" height="37" border="0"></a><a href="/band/index.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('band','','/graphics/nav/band2.gif',1)"><img
src="/graphics/nav/band1.gif" alt="about the band" name="band" width="63"
height="37" border="0"></a><a href="/records/index.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('records','','/graphics/nav/records2.gif',1)"><img
src="/graphics/nav/records1.gif" alt="buy our music online" name="records"
width="54" height="37" border="0"></a><a href="/contact.htm"
onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()"
onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('contact','','/graphics/nav/contact2.gif',1)"><img
src="/graphics/nav/contact1.gif" alt="get in touch" name="contact"
width="58" height="37" border="0"></a></td>
<td colspan="3"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="200" rowspan="3" bgcolor="999966"><!-- InstanceBeginEditable
name="image" --><img src="graphics/sidebar/image01.jpg" width="200"
height="683"><!-- InstanceEndEditable --></td>
<td width="15" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="999966"><!-- InstanceBeginEditable
name="title" --><img src="graphics/titles/news.gif" width="380"
height="71"><!-- InstanceEndEditable --></td>
<td colspan="3" bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="15" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
<td colspan="2" bgcolor="999966"> </td>
<td bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
<td bgcolor="8C8C59"><!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="subTitle" --><img
src="graphics/subtitles/latest.gif" width="115" height="35"><!--
InstanceEndEditable --></td>
<td bgcolor="8C8C59"> </td>
</tr>

same snippet of code from a newly formed child. Notice the lack of the two
dots and forward slash (../) before the graphics directory.....




"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Slippy:
>
> You don't by any chance have any linked files IN the Templates folder do
> you?
>
> Can you spawn a child from this and show me the code there, please?
>
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Alan Ames

2004-02-12, 8:28 pm

For bulk changing--
Get and install the Relativity extension by Jason Dalgarno from here:
http://e7x.com/dw/
After designing with relative paths- you can use that extension to change
all the paths to full absolute paths with a button push...

If it's a template issue-
Need to insert a new image- afaik, dw uses the link method of the
last-inserted image when setting link methods for the child pages of
templates.

Open the template.
Insert a NEW image someplace on page like the bottom, using the link method
wanted. (document relative)
Save the template. Okay updating pages.
Open template, delete the image you just put in- save. update. upload.


Murray *TMM*

2004-02-12, 8:28 pm

Alan:

Thanks for the clue - that's a good suggestion!

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"Alan Ames" <dont_mail_me@formdude.com> wrote in message
news:BC51737B.1751FF%dont_mail_me@formdude.com...
> For bulk changing--
> Get and install the Relativity extension by Jason Dalgarno from here:
> http://e7x.com/dw/
> After designing with relative paths- you can use that extension to change
> all the paths to full absolute paths with a button push...
>
> If it's a template issue-
> Need to insert a new image- afaik, dw uses the link method of the
> last-inserted image when setting link methods for the child pages of
> templates.
>
> Open the template.
> Insert a NEW image someplace on page like the bottom, using the link

method
> wanted. (document relative)
> Save the template. Okay updating pages.
> Open template, delete the image you just put in- save. update. upload.
>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-12, 8:29 pm

so I take it this is a bug in dreamweaver then if that's the most efficient
way of fixing it? if it works though then I'll give it a crack;)

I would still have to apply it to every spawned page I create from the
template though wouldn't I?

How do I make the changes exactly.....?

Cheers

Slippy

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> Alan:
>
> Thanks for the clue - that's a good suggestion!
>
> --
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>
> "Alan Ames" <dont_mail_me@formdude.com> wrote in message
> news:BC51737B.1751FF%dont_mail_me@formdude.com...
change[color=blue]
> method
>
>



Alan Ames

2004-02-12, 8:29 pm

not really a bug- it's the way dreamweaver determines the linking method
you want to use. Dw takes the last used linking method used in a template,
and makes all child pages use that linking method.

a guess- maybe the last prior thing you did in the template before it
happened was to insert an external css or .js link, and That was site root
relative. So it toggled dw's linking method perhaps.

you do not have to open each page.
[color=blue]
> method


Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 7:30 am

well I've tried that method and still no luck, it just does the same thing
and I'm not exactly sure where the extension comes into play...(?)

I am still a little confused though so just to clear a few things up there
are 2 different linking methods; 1. document relative and 2. root relative?
Document relative looking like this:

<a href="file:///C|/Inetpub/wwwroot/webdev/Circa/site/home.htm"

and site relative looking like this:

<a href="../home.htm"

I'm trying to achieve the site relative one and that is the case in the
template but when i create a new page from the template, before saving it
with a name in a location in my site root it displays links as DOCUMENT
relative. When I save the page the links are converted almost to site
relative but the two preceeding dots have dissappeared leaving:

<a href="/home.htm"

which obviously points to the wrong directory and therefore the styles and
the images are not displayed when I preview my page on the server.

I am using IIS on my own machine to preview the files and not just looking
at the design view of dreamweaver but the site is not live (on the
internet).

I've tried saving the new spawned pages from the template in the actual root
directory aswell as sub directories and neither work.

I hope someone can help, sorry if some of what I've mentioned is simplistic
but I'm making sure I understand exactly what's going on ;)

thanks

Slippy



"Alan Ames" <dont_mail_me@formdude.com> wrote in message
news:BC5181FF.17521F%dont_mail_me@formdude.com...
> not really a bug- it's the way dreamweaver determines the linking method
> you want to use. Dw takes the last used linking method used in a template,
> and makes all child pages use that linking method.
>
> a guess- maybe the last prior thing you did in the template before it
> happened was to insert an external css or .js link, and That was site root
> relative. So it toggled dw's linking method perhaps.
>
> you do not have to open each page.
>
upload.[color=blue]
>
>



Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 8:28 am

Slip:

> 2 different linking methods; 1. document relative and 2. root relative


That's correct.

> <a href="file:///C|/Inetpub/wwwroot/webdev/Circa/site/home.htm"


No. That's a transient link form (or it should be).

Try this -

1. Create a new page in DW after selecting *any* site you have defined.
2. Insert an image from within that site into the page.
3. Look at the code (before saving the page) and you will see a link that
points to the file on your hard drive, like the one above. This is because
DW doesn't know where you are going to save that file yet, hence it cannot
write the link as it will be in the final page.
4. Save the page within the site you are using currently and look at the
code again. Note that the link style has changed now that DW knows where
the page is to be located within the site.

If you are seeing links like that in saved files, then you have done
something wrong.

A document relative link looks like this (it is a path from the current
document's location to the linked file -

<a href="../../foo.html"> (for example)

> and site relative looking like this:
>
> <a href="../home.htm"


No - that's a document relative link. A ROOT relative link would be a path
from the root of the site to the linked file, i.e., it is not made with
regard to the location of the current file -

<a href="/images/pigs/foo.html"> (for example)

> I hope someone can help, sorry if some of what I've mentioned is

simplistic
> but I'm making sure I understand exactly what's going on ;)


You can zip the site and send it to me and I'll take a look and see why this
is happening, if you'd like.

But before you do, try this -

* Create a new page, and insert an image. Save the page.

Copy and paste the page's code into a reply - I just want to see what
linking method is being defaulted.

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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0ibeg$6rh$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> well I've tried that method and still no luck, it just does the same thing
> and I'm not exactly sure where the extension comes into play...(?)
>
> I am still a little confused though so just to clear a few things up there
> are 2 different linking methods; 1. document relative and 2. root

relative?
> Document relative looking like this:
>
> <a href="file:///C|/Inetpub/wwwroot/webdev/Circa/site/home.htm"
>
> and site relative looking like this:
>
> <a href="../home.htm"
>
> I'm trying to achieve the site relative one and that is the case in the
> template but when i create a new page from the template, before saving it
> with a name in a location in my site root it displays links as DOCUMENT
> relative. When I save the page the links are converted almost to site
> relative but the two preceeding dots have dissappeared leaving:
>
> <a href="/home.htm"
>
> which obviously points to the wrong directory and therefore the styles and
> the images are not displayed when I preview my page on the server.
>
> I am using IIS on my own machine to preview the files and not just looking
> at the design view of dreamweaver but the site is not live (on the
> internet).
>
> I've tried saving the new spawned pages from the template in the actual

root
> directory aswell as sub directories and neither work.
>
> I hope someone can help, sorry if some of what I've mentioned is

simplistic
> but I'm making sure I understand exactly what's going on ;)
>
> thanks
>
> Slippy
>
>
>
> "Alan Ames" <dont_mail_me@formdude.com> wrote in message
> news:BC5181FF.17521F%dont_mail_me@formdude.com...
method[color=blue]
template,[color=blue]
root[color=blue]
> upload.
>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 10:28 am

Murray,

Ah, from what you just mentioned i see that in my template the links are
SITE RELATIVE but show up in the preview. When a new page is made from the
template (and saved) they switch to ROOT RELATIVE but don't show up in the
preview.

After doing the 3 steps you suggested (Create new page, insert the image,
save the page) here are the results:

<img src="/graphics/transgif.gif" width="1" height="1"><a href="/home.htm"

ROOT RELATIVE (although the code is far too long to paste all in a reply -
this is the image i inserted and the previous reference to the home image.)

However, when previewing this on my web server, none of the links show up
(images and styles). However they do when I either take away the preceeding
"/" or include a double dot ".." before the forward slash.

Hope this gives you a clear enough picture of what it's actually doing and
spotting where I'm going wrong. If not then I can zip up the site files and
send them to you.

Slip







"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:c0ic8b$7uj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Slip:
>
>
> That's correct.
>
>
> No. That's a transient link form (or it should be).
>
> Try this -
>
> 1. Create a new page in DW after selecting *any* site you have defined.
> 2. Insert an image from within that site into the page.
> 3. Look at the code (before saving the page) and you will see a link that
> points to the file on your hard drive, like the one above. This is

because
> DW doesn't know where you are going to save that file yet, hence it cannot
> write the link as it will be in the final page.
> 4. Save the page within the site you are using currently and look at the
> code again. Note that the link style has changed now that DW knows where
> the page is to be located within the site.
>
> If you are seeing links like that in saved files, then you have done
> something wrong.
>
> A document relative link looks like this (it is a path from the current
> document's location to the linked file -
>
> <a href="../../foo.html"> (for example)
>
>
> No - that's a document relative link. A ROOT relative link would be a

path
> from the root of the site to the linked file, i.e., it is not made with
> regard to the location of the current file -
>
> <a href="/images/pigs/foo.html"> (for example)
>
> simplistic
>
> You can zip the site and send it to me and I'll take a look and see why

this
> is happening, if you'd like.
>
> But before you do, try this -
>
> * Create a new page, and insert an image. Save the page.
>
> Copy and paste the page's code into a reply - I just want to see what
> linking method is being defaulted.
>
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> "Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c0ibeg$6rh$1@forums.macromedia.com...
thing[color=blue]
there[color=blue]
> relative?
it[color=blue]
and[color=blue]
looking[color=blue]
> root
> simplistic
> method
> template,
> root
link[color=blue]
>
>



Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 10:28 am

Slip:

> SITE RELATIVE


There really is no such thing as site relative, although it would have to be
the same as root relative if there were. Perhaps you mean that it's an
absolute link to the file on your hard drive, e.g,

<img src="file:///C|My Documents....>?

And the links look like this AFTER you have saved the template? This is
wrong. If you are getting such links in a SAVED file of any sort, then
something has broken. Open the file, and remake every link (while you are
at it, make sure that you a) browse to the linked file, and b) set Relative
To: to "Document"). Then save it. Do the links look different now?

<img src="/graphics/transgif.gif" width="1" height="1"><a href="/home.htm"

Yep - that's a bona fide Root Relative link. That means that you are still
defaulting to the wrong link type.

> However, when previewing this on my web server


I assume you mean that when you open this file in DW, and do a preview (F12)
you do not see any images?

This is how DMX will work if you are using ROOT RELATIVE links, *and not
using*
temporary files to preview.

Here's an example of how it would be if I WERE using temp files to preview
(EDIT | Preferences > Preview in Browser) -

* I create a page with a link to an image -> <img src="/images/foo.gif">
(note that the image link is a root relative link)
* I preview that page with DMX (since I am using temp files, DMX is kind
enough to realize that root relative links won't work in a preview, and so
it converts them to document relative links when it builds the temporary
file for the preview) -> <img src="../images/foo.gif"> (I'm assuming that
your document is one level below the root of the site). In the preview,
this page looks fine because the browser has no trouble with the document
relative link - it knows where the file it just opened is, and can follow
the path to the image).
* I then click on a link in the previewed page to another page that also has
ROOT relative linked images --> <img src="/images/bar.gif"> and suddenly
the image does not load.

Why? Because when you click away from the temp file DMX just built for you,
you have lost the benefit of the automatic conversion that DMX does with
root relative links, and the browser looks for this new image starting from
the root of the hard drive, not the root of your site.

Geddit?

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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c0ij4i$id5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Murray,
>
> Ah, from what you just mentioned i see that in my template the links are
> SITE RELATIVE but show up in the preview. When a new page is made from the
> template (and saved) they switch to ROOT RELATIVE but don't show up in the
> preview.
>
> After doing the 3 steps you suggested (Create new page, insert the image,
> save the page) here are the results:
>
> <img src="/graphics/transgif.gif" width="1" height="1"><a href="/home.htm"
>
> ROOT RELATIVE (although the code is far too long to paste all in a reply -
> this is the image i inserted and the previous reference to the home

image.)
>
> However, when previewing this on my web server, none of the links show up
> (images and styles). However they do when I either take away the

preceeding
> "/" or include a double dot ".." before the forward slash.
>
> Hope this gives you a clear enough picture of what it's actually doing and
> spotting where I'm going wrong. If not then I can zip up the site files

and
> send them to you.
>
> Slip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:c0ic8b$7uj$1@forums.macromedia.com...
that[color=blue]
> because
cannot[color=blue]
the[color=blue]
where[color=blue]
> path
> this
GET[color=blue]
> thing
> there
the[color=blue]
> it
DOCUMENT[color=blue]
> and
> looking
actual[color=blue]
it[color=blue]
site[color=blue]
> link
>
>



Alan Ames

2004-02-13, 10:28 am



> However, when previewing this on my web server, none of the links show up
> (images and styles). However they do when I either take away the preceeding
> "/" or include a double dot ".." before the forward slash.


If Site Root Relative links don't work on the server- then you are probably
hosted in a subfolder of the domain.
Like http://www.myhost.com/mysiteishere/

Is that true?

If that's the case- you can't use Site Root relative links with dreamweaver,
because dreamweaver thinks the site root is where you have defined the site
(your subfolder). So only use Document Relative paths.

Repeat the process of changing in the template, but this time choose
Document Relative-

On the Relativity extension- did you look at the link i gave?
http://www.microwaved.plus.com/dw/

Suggest you install that free extension, and use it to find and change any
site root relative paths to document relative, so they will work on the
server. The extension will work on a the current file, selected files, or
the entire site.

Relativity
Change links to document relative or root relative.

Version: 1.1.4
Updated: 15 Nov 2003
Status: stable
Requires: DW4/UD4/MX
Download: http://www.microwaved.plus.com/dw/relativity.zip


Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 11:31 am

Alan,

First off, thanks for the extension you recommended, it does a good job of
changing all the links and yes, I've checked out the links you mentioned.

> If Site Root Relative links don't work on the server- then you are

probably
> hosted in a subfolder of the domain.
> Like http://www.myhost.com/mysiteishere/
>
> Is that true?


well yes, it is in a sub-directory but from localhost rather than a live
server. http://localhost/mysite/

> If that's the case- you can't use Site Root relative links with

dreamweaver,
> because dreamweaver thinks the site root is where you have defined the

site
> (your subfolder). So only use Document Relative paths.


neither DOCUMENT RELATIVE or ROOT RELATIVE works when I try them in the page
template and then spawn a new page from that. With BOTH linking methods
they keep linking to:

<img src="/graphics/sidebar/image01.jpg"

This should be right if the newly spawned page is in the ROOT of the site
shouldn't it? It then looks in the graphics folder and then finds the
image....?

Here is the basic directory setup I'm using:

site -|- templates
|- graphics
|- news
|- contact
|- etc

Site is defined as the SITE ROOT with the other directories within that
root. So I'm creating a new page from the template in the templates
directory. I've now tried saving the links as DOCUMENT RELATIVE and ROOT
RELATIVE in the template page itself and then spawning a new page from it,
saving it and trying to view it. The links still change from what they were
to ROOT RELATIVE and even though they look as though they should work they
don't....

I understand the whole concept of the linking but don't understand why it
isn't working:P

Slippy




"Alan Ames" <dont_mail_me@formdude.com> wrote in message
news:BC524310.1752F7%dont_mail_me@formdude.com...
>
>
up[color=blue]
preceeding[color=blue]
>
> If Site Root Relative links don't work on the server- then you are

probably
> hosted in a subfolder of the domain.
> Like http://www.myhost.com/mysiteishere/
>
> Is that true?
>
> If that's the case- you can't use Site Root relative links with

dreamweaver,
> because dreamweaver thinks the site root is where you have defined the

site
> (your subfolder). So only use Document Relative paths.
>
> Repeat the process of changing in the template, but this time choose
> Document Relative-
>
> On the Relativity extension- did you look at the link i gave?
> http://www.microwaved.plus.com/dw/
>
> Suggest you install that free extension, and use it to find and change any
> site root relative paths to document relative, so they will work on the
> server. The extension will work on a the current file, selected files, or
> the entire site.
>
> Relativity
> Change links to document relative or root relative.
>
> Version: 1.1.4
> Updated: 15 Nov 2003
> Status: stable
> Requires: DW4/UD4/MX
> Download: http://www.microwaved.plus.com/dw/relativity.zip
>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 12:28 pm

sorry, I meant DOCUMENT RELATIVE instead of "SITE RELATIVE".

more details of my problems are included in my reply to Alan.

In response to your questions though:

> I assume you mean that when you open this file in DW, and do a preview

(F12)
> you do not see any images?


yes spot on!

> Why? Because when you click away from the temp file DMX just built for

you,
> you have lost the benefit of the automatic conversion that DMX does with
> root relative links, and the browser looks for this new image starting

from
> the root of the hard drive, not the root of your site.


so how is it possible to see the images and styles you've used. As I
mentioned in the reply to Alan I've tried both ROOT RELATIVE and DOCUMENT
RELATIVE but when I save as a new page all the links change to ROOT
RELATIVE:

<img src="/graphics/sidebar/image01.jpg"

and prevents me from seeing the result in the preview (f12)

I'm up with the concept but now how to fix the problem :P What is your
email by the way?

Slippy


"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Slip:
>
>
> There really is no such thing as site relative, although it would have to

be
> the same as root relative if there were. Perhaps you mean that it's an
> absolute link to the file on your hard drive, e.g,
>
> <img src="file:///C|My Documents....>?
>
> And the links look like this AFTER you have saved the template? This is
> wrong. If you are getting such links in a SAVED file of any sort, then
> something has broken. Open the file, and remake every link (while you are
> at it, make sure that you a) browse to the linked file, and b) set

Relative
> To: to "Document"). Then save it. Do the links look different now?
>
> <img src="/graphics/transgif.gif" width="1" height="1"><a href="/home.htm"
>
> Yep - that's a bona fide Root Relative link. That means that you are

still
> defaulting to the wrong link type.
>
>
> I assume you mean that when you open this file in DW, and do a preview

(F12)
> you do not see any images?
>
> This is how DMX will work if you are using ROOT RELATIVE links, *and not
> using*
> temporary files to preview.
>
> Here's an example of how it would be if I WERE using temp files to preview
> (EDIT | Preferences > Preview in Browser) -
>
> * I create a page with a link to an image -> <img src="/images/foo.gif">
> (note that the image link is a root relative link)
> * I preview that page with DMX (since I am using temp files, DMX is kind
> enough to realize that root relative links won't work in a preview, and so
> it converts them to document relative links when it builds the temporary
> file for the preview) -> <img src="../images/foo.gif"> (I'm assuming that
> your document is one level below the root of the site). In the preview,
> this page looks fine because the browser has no trouble with the document
> relative link - it knows where the file it just opened is, and can follow
> the path to the image).
> * I then click on a link in the previewed page to another page that also

has
> ROOT relative linked images --> <img src="/images/bar.gif"> and suddenly
> the image does not load.
>
> Why? Because when you click away from the temp file DMX just built for

you,
> you have lost the benefit of the automatic conversion that DMX does with
> root relative links, and the browser looks for this new image starting

from
> the root of the hard drive, not the root of your site.
>
> Geddit?
>
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Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 12:28 pm

Slip:

forums at great hyphen web hyphen sights

with the common ending (the first three letters of the third word in this
line). 8)

Now - are you using temp files for preview?

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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> sorry, I meant DOCUMENT RELATIVE instead of "SITE RELATIVE".
>
> more details of my problems are included in my reply to Alan.
>
> In response to your questions though:
>
> (F12)
>
> yes spot on!
>
> you,
> from
>
> so how is it possible to see the images and styles you've used. As I
> mentioned in the reply to Alan I've tried both ROOT RELATIVE and DOCUMENT
> RELATIVE but when I save as a new page all the links change to ROOT
> RELATIVE:
>
> <img src="/graphics/sidebar/image01.jpg"
>
> and prevents me from seeing the result in the preview (f12)
>
> I'm up with the concept but now how to fix the problem :P What is your
> email by the way?
>
> Slippy
>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 12:28 pm

I take it "sights" is as is displayed and not a cryptic clue as to the other
spelling...? ;)

no, I'm not using temp files to preview. Just viewing them directly off the
IIS webserver from Inetpub/wwwroot/etc

Slip


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> Slip:
>
> forums at great hyphen web hyphen sights
>
> with the common ending (the first three letters of the third word in this
> line). 8)
>
> Now - are you using temp files for preview?
>
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> "Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c0iqaj$fe$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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>



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2004-02-13, 12:28 pm

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Slip:

> I take it "sights" is as is displayed and not a cryptic clue as to the

other
> spelling...? ;)


Yep - although either should work as I own both domains.

What is the path that you are entering in your browser to browse to the
pages?

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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I take it "sights" is as is displayed and not a cryptic clue as to the

other
> spelling...? ;)
>
> no, I'm not using temp files to preview. Just viewing them directly off

the
> IIS webserver from Inetpub/wwwroot/etc
>
> Slip
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 12:29 pm

the path I'm entering in to view the pages is:

http://localhost/webdev/circa/site/home.htm for example

this works and is tested.

Slippy


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> Slip:
>
> other
>
> Yep - although either should work as I own both domains.
>
> What is the path that you are entering in your browser to browse to the
> pages?
>
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> other
> the
>
>



Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 1:30 pm

Slip:

That's why it's failing. You need a virtual folder set for the site's root
so that you can type -

http://localhost/<rootvirtualfolder>/home.htm

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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> the path I'm entering in to view the pages is:
>
> http://localhost/webdev/circa/site/home.htm for example
>
> this works and is tested.
>
> Slippy
>
>



Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 1:30 pm

It's what you set up in IIS that says "hey, bozo, here's where the root of
the bupkis site is located!".

That way, when you do //localhost/bupkis, IIS works right, because it knows
where that site's root folder is, and your pages with root relative links in
'em work right....

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> ahhhh, of course....... what's a virtual folder....? ;)
>
> Slip
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:c0ivm7$99i$1@forums.macromedia.com...
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>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 1:30 pm

ahhhh, of course....... what's a virtual folder....? ;)

Slip


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> Slip:
>
> That's why it's failing. You need a virtual folder set for the site's

root
> so that you can type -
>
> http://localhost/<rootvirtualfolder>/home.htm
>
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>
>



Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 1:30 pm

Slip:

On W2KPro, I open IIS, click the advanced category, click on Add, and fill
in the blanks.

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> so how do I set one of those up then? the actual server seems to be

working
> fine and displaying what it should be though
>
> slip
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 1:30 pm

so how do I set one of those up then? the actual server seems to be working
fine and displaying what it should be though

slip


"Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> It's what you set up in IIS that says "hey, bozo, here's where the root of
> the bupkis site is located!".
>
> That way, when you do //localhost/bupkis, IIS works right, because it

knows
> where that site's root folder is, and your pages with root relative links

in
> 'em work right....
>
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> GET
>
>



Slippyaah

2004-02-13, 2:30 pm

Is the process similar on the WinXP Pro OS? That's what I'm running. How
do you mean you open IIS?

Do I need to set one up for every site the server will be hosting?

Thanks

Slip


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> Slip:
>
> On W2KPro, I open IIS, click the advanced category, click on Add, and fill
> in the blanks.
>
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>
>



Murray *TMM*

2004-02-13, 6:28 pm

Slip:

Working with IIS in W2KPro is different than in WXPPro!

Open IIS with START | Programs > Administrative Tools > Internet Information
Services. Then define a new site with ACTION | New > Virtual Directory, and
execute the Wizard.

This should do the trick for ya.

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"Slippyaah" <badlydrawnbrian(removethis)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is the process similar on the WinXP Pro OS? That's what I'm running. How
> do you mean you open IIS?
>
> Do I need to set one up for every site the server will be hosting?
>
> Thanks
>
> Slip
>
>
> "Murray *TMM*" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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