Corel Draw 12 - Can't Find Fonts On Disk 1

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Can't Find Fonts On Disk 1

Richard B. Lehman

2005-10-04, 10:25 pm

What would be the reason I cannot find the Fonts on Disk 1. The disk is
titled Program Files / Fonts. I installed Bitstream Font Navigator and it
cannot locate fonts on the disk. I tried Adobe Type Manager and it cannot
find fonts on the disk. There are fonts on my previous version 11 disk but
not on the 12.
Thanks for you help,
Richard

Foster D. Coburn III

2005-10-05, 3:29 am

Richard,

Have you looked on Disk 2?

I would NOT have ANY program search for fonts on a CD. NEVER, NEVER,
NEVER!!!!

You should look yourself using Explorer. Then copy the fonts to an
appropriate place on your hard drive.

More info can be found at
http://www.unleash.com/articles/fonts/fontmanage.html

--
Foster D. Coburn III
Unleashed Productions, Inc.
http://www.unleash.com -- The Ultimate Resource for the Graphics User
Tips & Tricks, Training Classes, Books, Videos and much more
Attend a CorelDRAW 12 Boot Camp led by
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Richard B. Lehman

2005-10-05, 3:29 am

It took me a while but I found them on disk 2 and 3.

"Richard B. Lehman" <RLehman@Environetics.net> wrote in message
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>
> What would be the reason I cannot find the Fonts on Disk 1. The disk is
> titled Program Files / Fonts. I installed Bitstream Font Navigator and it
> cannot locate fonts on the disk. I tried Adobe Type Manager and it cannot
> find fonts on the disk. There are fonts on my previous version 11 disk but
> not on the 12.
> Thanks for you help,
> Richard
>
>

Hernán

2005-10-05, 3:29 am

Why since DRAW10
fonts comes half in CD#2 and the other half in CD#3 ???

It was useful in DRAW9 when ALL the fonts been in CD#1.

Hernán

Kelly Kirsch

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

"Foster D. Coburn III" <ilovespam@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Richard,
>
> Have you looked on Disk 2?
>
> I would NOT have ANY program search for fonts on a CD. NEVER, NEVER,
> NEVER!!!!

With such emphasis on never, it begs the question why?
>
> You should look yourself using Explorer. Then copy the fonts to an
> appropriate place on your hard drive.

Seems to me much hassle could have been avoided had someone at Corel proofed
the cd art before it was printed. As a graphics program surely those at
Corel would know printing's number one axiom "proof never the type you set".

Of course that was in the old days and perhaps more modern methods are used.

Kelly Kirsch
A old dino from the Jurassic period

Foster D. Coburn III

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

<<With such emphasis on never, it begs the question why?>>

Fonts should NEVER be installed from a removable disk. When you remove the
disk, you remove the fonts.

--
Foster D. Coburn III
Unleashed Productions, Inc.
http://www.unleash.com -- The Ultimate Resource for the Graphics User
Tips & Tricks, Training Classes, Books, Videos and much more
Attend a CorelDRAW 12 Boot Camp led by
Foster Coburn on November 3-5, 2005 or December 1-3,2005
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Kelly Kirsch

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

"Foster D. Coburn III" <ilovespam@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> <<With such emphasis on never, it begs the question why?>>
>
> Fonts should NEVER be installed from a removable disk. When you remove the
> disk, you remove the fonts.

You threw me when you said in the first post "never search", but what you
meant was "never install". Now I understand. Thanks for the clarification.

Kelly Kirsch

Kor-El

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

Foster D. Coburn III wrote:

> <<With such emphasis on never, it begs the question why?>>
>
> Fonts should NEVER be installed from a removable disk. When you remove the
> disk, you remove the fonts.

What are you talking about? While you do have an OPTION to not copy the fonts
to your system's standard installed fonts directory, the default is to copy them.

If you're using a font manager that keeps its "uninstalled" or "inactive" font
libraries on removeable media or on whatever media where the fonts were first
encountered, then yes, you have to make sure that however they're handled, it's
what you want.

I have a number of project-associated font libraries on external media, usually
accompanied by all related project files. This keeps major projects all in one
place, and incidentally provides backup. I never (well, hardly ever) encounter
the problem of finding some obscure font that was used for a project four years
later when the client wants a re-do or an update.

- Kor-El

Foster D. Coburn III

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

Kelly,

The original post said they were searching in Font Navigator and in ATM.
Since those programs are for installing fonts, I said to never do it.

--
Foster D. Coburn III
Unleashed Productions, Inc.
http://www.unleash.com -- The Ultimate Resource for the Graphics User
Tips & Tricks, Training Classes, Books, Videos and much more
Attend a CorelDRAW 12 Boot Camp led by
Foster Coburn on November 3-5, 2005 or December 1-3,2005
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Foster D. Coburn III

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

Kor-El,

If you would copy the fonts from these projects to your hard drive, you'd
never have to worry about them. If the fonts are being supplied by a client,
then the client is most likely violating their font license.

--
Foster D. Coburn III
Unleashed Productions, Inc.
http://www.unleash.com -- The Ultimate Resource for the Graphics User
Tips & Tricks, Training Classes, Books, Videos and much more
Attend a CorelDRAW 12 Boot Camp led by
Foster Coburn on November 3-5, 2005 or December 1-3,2005
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Kor-El

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

Foster D. Coburn III wrote:

> Kor-El,
>
> If you would copy the fonts from these projects to your hard drive, you'd
> never have to worry about them.

What? Never worry about stuff kept on a hard drive? That's what I worry MOST
about. Have you never lost a hard drive? Or upgraded to a new system and
forgotten to copy over some critical piece of data (or font)?

> If the fonts are being supplied by a client,
> then the client is most likely violating their font license.

That's a leap from an unwarranted premise to an unwarranted conclusion. In fact,
I provide everything, and give the client a finished product. Fonts are either
legally embedded or converted to text.

- Kor-El

Foster D. Coburn III

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

<<What? Never worry about stuff kept on a hard drive? That's what I worry
MOST about. Have you never lost a hard drive? Or upgraded to a new system
and forgotten to copy over some critical piece of data (or font)?>>

Yes I have. That's why I back up on a regular basis. I keep all of my fonts
in one folder so it is easy to back up or to move to a new system.

<<That's a leap from an unwarranted premise to an unwarranted conclusion. In
fact, I provide everything, and give the client a finished product. Fonts
are either legally embedded or converted to text.>>

No, I simply said that if a client was supplying fonts that they are most
likely violating their license. If they are embedded, they aren't separate
font files on the removable disk. Many people don't pay any attention to the
license on fonts and gladly send them to whoever asks for them. Having
worked in a foundry, I know the licenses pretty well and know that no major
foundry allows a user to supply fonts to anyone legally.

--
Foster D. Coburn III
Unleashed Productions, Inc.
http://www.unleash.com -- The Ultimate Resource for the Graphics User
Tips & Tricks, Training Classes, Books, Videos and much more
Attend a CorelDRAW 12 Boot Camp led by
Foster Coburn on November 3-5, 2005 or December 1-3,2005
http://www.unleash.com/training/coreldrawbootcamp.asp

Kor-El

2005-10-05, 6:34 pm

Foster D. Coburn III wrote:

> <<That's a leap from an unwarranted premise to an unwarranted conclusion. In
> fact, I provide everything, and give the client a finished product. Fonts
> are either legally embedded or converted to text.>>
>
> No, I simply said that if a client was supplying fonts that they are most
> likely violating their license. If they are embedded, they aren't separate
> font files on the removable disk. Many people don't pay any attention to the
> license on fonts and gladly send them to whoever asks for them.

Too true.

> Having worked in a foundry, I know the licenses pretty well and know that no major
> foundry allows a user to supply fonts to anyone legally.

Some EULA's are for a limited number (often 5) of copies; some allow providing
fonts to a print shop (with conditions, of course), and innumerable other
variations. And there are also some unlimited license, quality freeware fonts
out there; as text fonts, display fonts, special purpose fonts, and novelty fonts.

= Kor-El

Corel

2005-10-14, 6:50 pm

FYI, another good reason to not search with a font install product like ATM
is that it can take forever to load the font list and populate it with
examples, variations, etc. I also use Explorer to search the raw font names,
and then you can drag the font (or its shortcut) directly into your fonts
folder.

"Kelly Kirsch" <KellyKirsch@KellyKirsch.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Foster D. Coburn III" <ilovespam@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:43433679$1_1@cnews...
>
> With such emphasis on never, it begs the question why?
>
> Seems to me much hassle could have been avoided had someone at Corel
proofed
> the cd art before it was printed. As a graphics program surely those at
> Corel would know printing's number one axiom "proof never the type you
set".
>
> Of course that was in the old days and perhaps more modern methods are
used.
>
> Kelly Kirsch
> A old dino from the Jurassic period
>
>
>
>