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| John_Couch@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| XP. Illustrator CS2. 2 GB RAM. Please follow the example.
New drawing. Select text tool. Enter font name into dialog box. Type in height size 1.5" in dialog box. Type the letter M. Check the size of the text by drawing a box around the "M'. It is 1.0118".
Now question, why is this the case? I want to be able to enter the size of text required and have it be that size. It has taken untold hours to resize text to meet what is actually needed.
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong...is this another Illustrator quirk? Please help in that it is driving our staff of graphics people crazy.
Thanks in advance,
John Couch
Vice President
Overstreet Sign Contractors, Inc.
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| Scott_Falkner@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Your size is converted to points, so the text size is 108 points. That's the size of a character from the bottom of the lowest character to the top of the highest character, not the cap height, which varies from font to font.
A quick rule of thumb is to convert inches to a percentage, then enter that as a point size. It should get you close. For example, if you wanted 1.0118 inch high letters, you'd enter a point size of 101.18. That's pretty close to the actual size needed (w
e now know that value is 108).
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong...is this another Illustrator quirk?
Please help in that it is driving our staff of graphics people crazy
This is not a quirk of anything. It is the way things are, and have been for hundreds of years. Some proprietary systems do work on cap height, but very few. If your graphics people are being driven crazy by this, then they are remarkably inexperienced an
d naive. You are going to be back her. A lot.
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| Stephen_Fish@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| John:
The reason it doesn't work like you expect is that the size of a font is the distance between letters with highest and lowest components. I think Scott has a rule of thumb way to do what you want. steve
Edit- The magical Scott appears before he is summoned
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| John_Couch@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Scott and Stephen,
Thanks for the replies.
Let’s try again.
New drawing. Draw an open box 108 pts. X 108 pts. Select type tool. Enter Myriad, Regular, and 108 pts. into Character dialog box. Type “Oy” (they seem to be the min. / max. characters in overall height. Draw a box from the top of the O to the bottom of t
he y. Note that the height from the top of the O to the bottom of the y is 97.98 pts.
Explanation please.
TIA,
John
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| Stephen_Fish@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| John:
Font size doesn't change when it is bolded, but the height does. Notice that the dot over the small "i" becomes higher that the capital "M" when bolded. steve
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| John_Couch@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Kurt,
You may have the answer I’m looking for!. However, could not run after saving file. Do you know for sure that this is a safe scripts file?
Stephen...your opinion?
TIA,
John
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| Kurt_Gold@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| For sure, John, but I do not understand what you mean by "could not run after saving file".
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| jcates@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Every font is different, but usually the lowercase "L" or "F" is the tallest character; just because it's a capital letter doesn't mean it's going to tower over all the others. As for the descenders, that's really font specific and could be any of them, b
ut more often will be one with a loop or hook instead of a stick ("g" or instead of "p" or "y"). In some fonts, the lowercase "F" is the tallest ascender and the lowest descender.
I work for a computer retailer and do a lot of vinyl work for in-store signage and vehicle art and encounter these issues on a regular basis. The "X" height of lowercase letters varies by each font.
You're trying to blame the software for something the software didn't do. Just like Scott said, it's been like this for hundreds of years.
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| John_Couch@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Never mind. Just remembered that it has to be installed into ISC2 scripts files. Works like a charm! Thank you.
John
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| John_Couch@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| jcates,
Not blaming anything, just looking for solutions. Thanks for the reply.
John
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| Stephen_Fish@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Thanks jcates for the cogent explanation. steve
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| jcates@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| You're welcome, Steve, and thank you. Sometimes on-the-job experience pays off.
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| John_Couch@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 7:04 pm |
| Thanks to all for the time spent. Issue resolved.
John Couch
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| Stephen_Fish@adobeforums.com 2006-08-24, 10:43 pm |
| Nifty!
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